Seed of Angels

Post 263

As I continue this present study it is quite apparent to me by individual conversations that I am speaking way over the heads of most Christians today as they ask me to stop because “their head might explode” in the shaking of their faith. This breaks my heart as their faith is so small, barely clinging to true life, that if the conversation does not directly and simply apply to where they see themselves right now while looking straight down at their mired feet, it simply has no understandable value for them and they cannot even make themselves retain interest over their immediate needs to simply keep their faith alive in the present confusion. I really want to continue speaking to where the present wounded need it most urgently but in triage you must skip those who consume too much time, in order to treat the more who can be saved with less effort. It’s a cruel heartbreaking fact of life that if wounded alone you might confidently help them, but wounded among many you must leave them alone in order to save the many others.
I never intended this present study to run so long but this information is critical to a whole generation of believers after we are gone. Our generation is like the Exodus people who because of fear were content to remain on this side the Jordan and will need far too much personal handholding than time now allows and so must be left on this side the River.
So I speak now to those faithfully preparing, who will cross over in power, and when I am done, if time allows, I hope to return and further aid any who are weak yet still desperately clinging to the hope of life in its basic form (Revelation 2:18-29). For you, don’t sweat all this weird stuff, just keep the faith, cling to the cross of Christ, and don’t let go! It will get you there (Acts 2:21, Romans 10:13).
* * *

Additional Angel Theory Threads:
Continuing from the previous post, I find it important to make sure you understand there is a difference between the naphal (fallen)/nephil (fallers) of humanity, and the demonic angels that produce offspring with them before the Noah-like total destruction of life on earth will repeat, this time by fire (II Peter 3:6-7). We will later discuss the “how” of the human nephilization but first let’s investigate further the Genesis 6:4 general children (seed) of angels as it lays the groundwork for the Genesis 3:15 specific child (seed) of the Serpent himself (Satan).

For those familiar with the so called Angel Theory cause of the Genesis 6 nephilum greatly attended to by Tom Horn and the like (*1), you will notice that I have not rejected its foundation but rather used it as a springboard to greater scriptural accuracy of detail, discovering what I call the Human Nephilization interpretation. Now because our seminaries have long explained away the Angel Theory concept as utterly ridiculous, and replaced it with such pitiful explanatory excuses like the Sethite Theory (which has as many holes as Evolution), to properly present my expanded theory from one already rejected we now must carefully lay out and line up every supporting evidence before we can even accept the plausibility of such a crazy idea. And only then, when the evidence is overwhelmingly undeniable, begin to seriously consider it again “for the first time.” I’ve been there, done that. Now it’s your turn. Turn off your protective “That’s ridiculous” mentality for a moment (after all, you already believe in a risen Savior and a Rapture don’t you?), and be willing to honestly consider an idea you may have never heard before. It’s OK. You can always reject it later if you conclude it has no merit. The only protective thing you really need is to carefully note if my concepts violate the written and conceptual scriptures in any way, and even more importantly the Spirit of the scriptures.
Beyond that, it’s just a matter of evaluating correct interpretation or not.
* * *

A Warning:
I recently discovered a new meaning to a very familiar warning:

“For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, if any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: and if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book” Revelation 22:18-19.

Of course this passage is specifically speaking of the Revelation itself but conceptually it speaks of the related prophecy in the entire word of God that is sprinkled all through scripture. So why is it written specifically for the Revelation? Because Revelation is soooo strange that it will be easy to massage it away by analogy, to mean something other than what God intended it to say. It never previously connected with me that this warning actually includes earnest well-meaning expositors who handle the scriptures a bit sloppily, and less than with white glove care of a reverent historian to an ancient artifact, and in so lacking of due fear (caution), fulfill the curse from a lack of acceptable faith (see also Proverbs 30:5-6).
In the theory of Evolution, earnest young scientists are first “educated” to spurn the Creator God theory as not scientific and so whatever they then scientifically observe in reality is earnestly evaluated, even unconsciously, exclusive of the God theory, resulting in confident error that is the “only plausible conclusion” (*2). So it is with earnest expositors.
It is very easy to acquire some pre-conceived foundation that “sounds right” (usually from seminary or pastors) that is never again re-evaluated, upon which is then based all subsequent interpretation, which blinds us from the very clear Words written, and we end up with “the only plausible interpretation” that is then preach as fact while blinded to the added or subtracted presuppositions, such as; “It’s a scriptural fact that angels can’t have sex”.

Really?
Doesn’t it actually simply say that angels remain unmarried in heaven?

“For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven” Matthew 22:30.

People aren’t supposed to have sex if they aren’t married (Ephesians 5:3-5) but the disobedient still do, so what’s to say the angels can’t too? I don’t want to get graphic but we tend to view everything through our own temporal reality, as we should, but by our false perceptions in doing so, we completely miss the Type that it represents, which was the whole point of our reality-in-Type in the first place.
Note: that Jesus specifically limited his comment, regarding the unmarried state of the angels, to the heavenly realm, because we already know by Genesis 6:2 that in disobedience they have in the past married on earth. If Jesus did not limit his statement to heaven then he would have been wrong. Clearly in full opposition to a primary focus of the Mormon religion, Jesus declared the state of marriage and childbearing is specifically limited to/through mortals while here on earth. Even while on earth, the disobedient angels must use human women to accomplish those ends of children, and in heaven even we humans will lose that current option. Marriage and children are exclusively a terrestrial function (*3).
Did God not give us sex as yet another Type of the unseen reality? And if so, then can we not suppose that God as the husband, actually desires a Type of this manly spiritual intimacy of action with us his bride (*4) while all we tend to desire, in our feminine role, is the emotion of the relationship (*5). Today’s self-loving Christian is preoccupied to hear God tell them how much he loves us and emotionally feel his big arms around them in warm fuzzy protection and security of his dominate power as they “snuggle on the couch” so to speak. They go to church for “worship”, swaying side-to-side with arms lifted to heaven and tears of emotion streaking their cheeks as they sing nearly meaningless choruses of his unconditional love for them. In a self-centered state of engagement today’s Christian might be reluctantly and occasionally willing to the action of faith (works) in order to make Him happy, but really, in the self-centered emotional heart it’s not often actually desired if he just keeps telling us “how pretty we are” and how much he adores us: “It’s all about ME.”
It seems that in reply to our exaggerated feminine emotional needs, Christ has given us all the warm-and-fuzzy we should rightfully want; with his Holy Spirit of love constantly attending, and many comforting assurances and promises in his love letters (scripture) to us, Yet somehow we still fail even to try and make him happy in return by our faith in action (James 2:18,20,22,24,26). This concept of Type could be drug on further but the point is sufficiently made in Ephesians 5:21-32.

Satan only corrupts what God has already created, so can we not suppose that his temporal illicit sex idea and even Sodomy, is actually a perversion of something spiritual established by God uniting us as brethren (Acts 2:1, 2:44-47). With every liberty there are boundaries that must be understood and maintained (Joshua 1:5 with 1:8) so isn’t it possible and even probable that the angels crossed just such a boundary and the human women had the seed component that the angels lack, thereby producing offspring which the angels cannot do among themselves, nor will humanity after this temporal life (Mark 12:25 *6). Childbearing is declared the unique redemption of the human female gender (I Timothy 2:15), and Mary conceive Jesus Christ the God-man in a supernatural way (Luke 1:35), which was pre-bastardized by the disobedient carnal acts of the angels which cast a negative, diminishing light on his conception just as Beauty and the Beast made Gaston seem repulsive to us. So the early church seems to have all-together abandon the angel theory concept in scripture, to “protect” the holiness of Jesus’ miraculous conception. Honorable desire, but diminishing scripture nonetheless, and that is forbidden in Revelation for reasons we are just now figuring out. By the way, Jesus was not a giant.
Yes, It concerns me greatly to reveal these truths of scripture to an age of nephal men because of the potential confusion or misunderstanding, but it’s important that we don’t limit what scripture says, nor make it say what it does not by adding unsupported presupposition or ignoring seemingly harmful or unimportant elements in order to come to a desired conclusion such as does the Evolutionist with archeology, paleontology, etc. This human nephil interpretation limiting the angel nephilization theory is beginning to significantly answer many previously unanswerable passages without it, but in rejecting the false, we must retain the true elements of the angel theory, which our seminaries have utterly rejected as impossible.
So where else in scripture does it indicate this impossible interpretation may have merit? There are actually several more lightly veiled clues:
* * *

The Seed of Satan Referenced:
Right at the beginning with Adam and Eve still in the garden immediately after their fall, we see the first revealing of the “seed of Satan” as God distinguishes it from the seed of mankind;

“And the LORD God said unto the serpent…I will put enmity (342) between thee and the woman, and between thy seed (2233) and her seed (2233); it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel” Genesis 3:14-15.

Seed 2233 zera; from 2232; seed; figuratively, fruit, plant, sowing-time, posterity:-- x carnally, child, fruitful, seed(-time), sowing- time.
Seed 2232 zara; a primitive root; to sow; figuratively to disseminate, plant, fructify:-- bear, conceive seed, set with, sow (-er), yield.

I am going to assume you have enough scriptural understanding not to argue that the Serpent was just a serpent but was in fact Satan cast from heaven (Revelation 12:7-9, 20:2). So moving on, it is important to note that this seed 2233 zera is the fruit itself and not the NT seed 4690 sperma that causes the fruit, there is no doubt that the scripture actually means the seed of the demon serpent is offspring in the same way the human woman’s seed is offspring. It’s easy in the discomfort of embarrassment to simply ignore the obvious but it is too important to continue ignoring it; we really are talking about the life resulting from a union between male and female type genetic material, the same process by which plant life as well as animals birds and fish reproduce; fertilization.

But Matthew 22:30 and Mark 12:25 makes quite clear that angels in heaven do not marry and so we rightly conjecture that it means they are not permitted to produce children either, but wrongly conclude that they were created incapable. Yet the context of these New Testament verses was referencing the topic of an Old Testament command regarding bringing up seed; i.e. bearing children to continue the specific lineage of any one particular male (Deuteronomy 25:5-6).
Genesis 38:6-27 is a whole narration of this principle in practice long before it was a written law of scripture, to seat the concept and reveal deeper importance that we will not get into here. My point is that God places great value on the seed of woman, of which would come the human Christ (Isaiah 7:14), in contrast to the seed of angels of which would come the human Antichrist (not as specifically stated, Genesis 3:15).
Reflecting God’s Christ 2233 zera seed, there is simply no way that Satan can have the same kind of 2233 zera seed without a woman again as a participant.
* * *

The Seed of Angels:
We can see in the surprising complexity of Genesis 3:13-15 the early out-of-the-blue prophecy that the Serpent himself eventually produces offspring (by means undefined there). The result is a three-layer enmity that comes because he beguiled the woman:

1. enmity between thee (Satan) and the woman.
2. enmity between thy seed (Satan’s) and her seed.
3. enmity alluded by conduct between her seed and Satan himself (not his seed).

So what is enmity?
Enmity 342 eybah; from 340; hostility:-- enmity, hatred.
340 ayab; a primary root; to hate (as one of an opposite tribe or party); hence to be hostile:-- be an enemy.

Enmity 1. Between thee and the woman:
Obviously the woman is going to have hostility toward Satan for beguiling her to fall but it’s hardly a fair conflict, and we see that Type played out in the cute girlish hatred that women have with temporal snakes, which representation God intended (Genesis 3:14b+15a). So why is this obvious knowledge of the woman’s hatred for Satan even included in a list? Not ignoring the important prophecy that the verse actually makes Satan the primary in this enmity, it’s because although women naturally hate snakes they seem to gravitate toward “snakes” (bad men) like moths to flame. This two-fold anomalous distinction provides a dual understanding of the next enmities:

Enmity 2. Between thy seed and her seed:
The reason that this Genesis 3:15 demonic seed was prophesied to exist in general, (let’s call it enmity 2 distinction 1), is because of the eventual unauthorized marriage of the angels on earth with women at the time of Noah, which God pre-knew would occur, (and then again as Typed; at the second end “as in the Days of Noah”). God was not caught unaware of something he didn’t plan on because someone broke his rules, and he made the prophecy which proves it.
But the interesting part is that the woman’s “serpent children” will have hostility with her “nephil children”. And now that we know where the other half of his seed comes from to make offspring there is another scripture that suddenly has new meaning:

“And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle (6151) themselves with the seed (2234 zra) of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay” Daniel 2:43 (*7).

Seed 2234 zra; (Chaldean) corresponding to 2233 zera; posterity:-- seed.

Mingle 6151 arab; (Chaldean), ar-ab’; corresponding to 6148; to commingle:-- mingle (self), mix. (*8)

So what seed are these if they are not the seed of men?
They are the seed of angels as we have discovered, but surprisingly these are both seed of the woman! Now suddenly we have a whole list of new questions?

• What then makes them identifiably different from regular people?
• In what way will they mingle themselves with the seed of men?
• What makes one seed hate the other so much?

All good questions, so let’s start with this tidbit to create some thinking in light of all three:

God specifically instructs us to separate ourselves from that “other” seed (II Corinthians 6:17, Jeremiah 18:11) despite what Jimmy Carter says is the way to peace, (Deuteronomy 12:30-31, 13:6-8, Isaiah 17:10-13 [note: Isaiah’s description of a “pleasant plant” is false peace, and “a strange slip” refers to a wrong support-branch-like-stick meaning a wrong Christ, and the “nations rushing like that of many waters” refers to these national uprising revolts like what we see today], Proverbs 11:20-21, 18:5, 24:23, Daniel 11:6 [historically in the past GDE of Greece but still prophetic also], I Corinthians 6:15-16, etc.).

The reason that this demonic seed was prophesied by Genesis 3:15 to exist specifically, (let’s call it Enmity 2 distinction 2), reveals a specific seed of the serpent we know commonly as Antichrist (II Thessalonians 2:3-4), and the other specific seed of the woman, Jesus Christ (Galatians 3:16). The wording of the verse allows both generic and specific meanings but Paul makes clear that God would eventually mean it in the specific at the time he made the promise to Abraham, and we see that in the “it” and “his” of the Genesis 3:15 passage:

Enmity 3. "It shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel":
After the designated completion of enmity 2 distinction 1 (I John 2:14, Revelation 6:9, Revelation 12:11), we then arrive at implied enmity 3 where her specific seed Christ Jesus deals with the serpent himself in a way described that frankly I can’t yet figure out the meaning much beyond simple metaphor, but note: Neither party are anything more than bruised, and such bruising is clearly related to the Antichrist of Nahum 3:18-19, Leviticus 22:24, II Kings 18:21, Isaiah 1:6, Isaiah 42:3-4, 53:5,10, Jeremiah 30:12-14, Ezekiel 23:3,8, Daniel 2:40, Nahum 3:19, Matthew 12:20-21, Luke 4:18-19, and finally, Romans 16:20: “And the God of peace shall bruise Satan under your feet shortly…” Therefore we know by our own feet as the tools of the God of peace, that it is we who are the seed of the woman that will bruise the serpent’s head! (Genesis 3:15).

Who knew all that was in such a simple seeming verse?
* * *

So Who is Satan’s Specific Offspring (Zera Seed)?
Allah, who is clearly Satan in every detail of scripture including perfect timing, aggressively refuses to claim any seed and thereby share his glory (*9), so is Allah actually the Satan of Scripture anyway?
The answer seems to materialize as we note that all Islam today is required to at least once in their lifetime travel to Mecca and worship the Black Stone embedded in the Southeastern corner of their black cube called The Kaaba in Saudi Arabia, though they refuse to admit it openly, even to themselves, since they are only supposed to worship Allah the moon god (among his many brothers now metaphorically deceased *10), posing as the Almighty One.
The Beast that ascends from the bottomless pit (Revelation 17:8) will in the Type of this Black Stone indeed be the seed of the Serpent but this topic is almost as complex as the trinity being One God (*11) and so we will not develop it yet.

Identifying the existence of the Serpent’s seed in the Genesis 3 topic, but then dropping it from the narrative, is very much like the first chariot of red horses in the narrative of Zechariah 6:2 (see Post 175 The Four Winds http://when-did-reason-die.blogspot.com/2011/03/four-winds.html). It’s a clue to the later topic of Genesis 6:2-4 hybrids, as a precursor to the specific Beast seed in Revelation 17:8,11. This angelic child is a startling deceptive image of the earlier presentation of Jesus the Messiah: As I have said; Satan gets every opportunity God does so there will be no legitimate claims of “unfair” when he looses his challenge of claiming to be God (Isaiah 14:13-14). Don’t be shocked when you see these opportunities occur, not as good tricks but as very real miracles Typed by Pharaoh’s magicians before Moses (Exodus 7:9-12,19-22,8:5-7). I did not say they were actually miracles but enchantments so good it is as if they are miracles, and if you can’t tell, what difference does it make? This too is Typed in our daughter’s skilled enchanting cosmetics turning average beauty into perfection; Who is to know, and does it really matter anymore? The illusion is as good as the real thing for practical purposes so don’t bother debating that “Their not real,” just note that well into the ten-count contest Pharaoh finally had to ask Moses to get rid of the frogs (Exodus 8:8), and his magicians could no longer keep up with their illusions of Moses’ real miracles (Exodus 8:15-18) and finally conceded their professional inability against the real thing (v.19). So whenever the Antichrist begins his claim of Godhood, just quietly start counting his miracles:

“Back from the dead? Wow... that’s one” (Revelation 13:14).
“Fire from heaven? Cool... that’s two” (Revelation 13:13).
“Make an image live? I gotta confess that’s amazing!... but only three" (Revelation 13:15).
“Killing God’s people? Go for it, this is your day... it's just four” (Daniel 7:21).
"Kill God's unkillable witnesses? It took you long enough... your only up to five" (Revelation 11:3,5+7).
“You got more right?... good, I was getting worried for you” (Revelation 13:14a).

See, the believers who know Christ Jesus and his word won’t be phased by these miracles because they were already pre-given a copy of the program before the play. “Yep, right on cue.”

But now another complexity is left hanging;
* * *

How is it possible a fallen angel actually produces seed (2233 zera) offspring?
We know that God’s Holy angels can assume very real bodies when they minister to mankind such as the case with Lot (Genesis 19:1-3+) and many other scriptural examples (Judges 6:11). We also are told that mankind has entertained angels thinking they were common men, and the apostle Paul warns us to treat everyone with great respect for the same reason today (Hebrews 13:2), meaning angels can still walk among us as virtually indistinguishable from men (which answers the first of the three point questions above). We also know that at least some unclean spirits take form of reptilian like creatures identified as frogs in Revelation 16:13, while others are bodiless spirits looking for any living but defenseless body to overcome and inhabit (Matthew 8:28,31-32+12:29) yet remaining very concerned about their eventual predetermined incarceration with a specific known start date (Matthew 8:29), and still others are already locked away until a very designated point in time (Jude 1:6) when some are released (Revelation 9:14-15) and others waiting longer (Revelation 20:3), while still others not released at all (Jude 1:13). So it should not be a problem to understand that there is at least one variety of fallen angel who are capable of assuming their own physical bodies while on earth in a way indistinguishable from humanity, while others were also able at the time of Noah but then forbidden by incarceration until the designated time (Joel 2:11 *12) when perhaps released as locusts for five months (Revelation 9:1-11, Joel 2:6) though I think these locusts are rather the souls of their Noah Days seed long dead (Nahum 3:15-16, here called merchants in contrast to the angels called stars).
Angelology is a very large study all its own so it is just foolish ignorance to declare; “It can’t happen” simply because it sounds strange and you don’t want to believe it.
This of course hasn’t even addressed the topic of incubus/succubus (*13) that may very well be the indefensible method used at the beginning to take their wives but unable to produce offspring (Genesis 6:2) until another means is found (Genesis 6:4b). We simply don’t have all the details but what we do have is adding up substantially more than any discussion I have ever heard. We will continue deeper still in the next post.
* * * * * * *

(*1) Tom Horn and the like:
Having no desire to judge the validity of their Christianity, which I believe for the most part is genuine and true, or even condemn their research that is needful, I must still point out a blaring schism in their work, such as Mr. Horn’s books; APOLLYON RISING 2012, Nephilim Stargates, and Forbidden Gates etc., which again, I am not condemning outright but rather exposing as a very dangerous zone not clearly marked with enough caution tape.
In his radio interview CD set titled; “The Lost Symbol Found” Mr. horn sited that he recognizes the authority of scripture which revealed that demons have true hidden knowledge (Matthew 8:29, Mark 1:24, Acts 16:16-18, etc.) yet he seems to eagerly counsel at depth with their hidden knowledge in contradiction to the very scripture that he uses:

“Hold thy peace, and come out of him” Mark 1:25.

Jesus was not saying the demon’s knowledge was not true but that that he did not need them to proclaim truth, for reasons not expressed. Likewise, Peter allowed it for some time but being “grieved” he too commanded it to come out of her. We also should be very cautious of finding ourselves engrossed in the hidden knowledge of the demonics even though it may be true information. Though not counseling with demons, Glenn Beck has become to me a similar engrossed minister; honest and with true information yet far too focused on the truth from temporal lips so to speak, that leads away from the real intent of God, which is; repentance for disobedience (*1b). Global Peace in the image of, yet without God is the end result, which many well meaning Christians feel is good enough but actually places them in the same camp as Jimmy Carter. How much more warning then for Tom Horn, which has good information but really needs “book covers in red flags” warning that this information will lead you into truth that, being taught by demons, will place Christians as ready vessels into their hands. This is the scientist playing with the human genome, which activity requires a new serious evaluation of his moral worthiness to do it righteously. Tom Horn may be so righteous, but in reading his dangerous work, are you? The answer seems to be generically “No” as is evidenced by the huge fascination with his material while America continues to decline into exactly that.

(*1b) I have not changed my mind:
Lest you conclude that I am now disparaging Glenn Beck, I am not. The issue is not Glenn Beck, but is completely a matter of how you receive the information, and John the Baptist informs us we're not receiving it right (Acts 17:29,30,31); It is the path, but the path has become far too twisted for a simple “fluffing” to fix it, and without straightening the path the destination is lost in the going.

(*2) Intelligently Concluded Truth... That is Completely Wrong:
There are now many brain-function studies that are producing fascinating insight into how humanity thinks. One such study queries our natural propensity to indulge in harmful things all the while remaining optimistic about our future wellbeing. Dr. Tali Sharot of University College London, studies to know why:
“Think for example about eating food that’s not necessarily good for you… or smoking, or unprotected sex, all of these examples are examples in which people act in a way that’s maybe rewarding for them at present but can be very harmful in the future.”
She explains the target of her investigation; “We go through life experiencing heartache and failure but still we remain optimistic and that’s a great puzzle; how is it that we remain optimistic in the face of reality?”
To find out why we ignore so much of the negative information that comes our way, she asks volunteers while in a brain scanner, to predict their chances of experiencing a selection of eighty different negative events in their lifetime; such as Cancer, bone fracture, death before 60, home burglary, drug abuse, etc. Her study shows that given a series of test questions regarding the likelihood of an unfavorable event in their lifetime, test subjects using a percentage (%) figure response, most often show an expectation below the true average. Example; without given any pe-information a test subject predicts their chances of getting cancer to be 18%.
After making their prediction, while still in the scanner, the test subject is shown the average for that event (in the case of cancer; 30% in the western world), and then asked to again predict their personal likelihood of the same test event. The test subject is thus given a chance to re-evaluate his prediction as too optimistic and predict again having the new information. Then the test moves on to the next event to predict before getting the actual average and a second chance to make the prediction. In this way he is very clearly educated to the facts of reality and directly asked to compare it to his own view of reality, in a non-hidden means of honest education.
At the end of the 80-event test, the questions are repeated for him to again make all his predictions, now having all the new information as it directly related to his personal opinions on where he fits into the known averages. “What were interested in is whether Tom is going to use the information that we gave him in order to change his beliefs.”
Each time this experiment is performed the results are surprising; “So what we found was that when you give people positive information about the future, for example you tell them that the likelihood of suffering from Alzheimer’s is lower than what they thought, they take onboard the information. However, when you give people negative information about the future, for example;… [they chose 2% but the average is 10%], so this is negative information, they don’t change their beliefs and they stick to this very optimistic view of the world.” Both the test results and the brain scanner results suggest that your brain willfully ignores negative things and retains a rose tinted inaccurate view of the world instead. - BBC Science Channel Co-Production 2012 “Secret Brain”.
I include this study here as an aid to understanding our natural propensity to fully ignore any information that we deem as negative, regardless of how true it might be, yet readily accept positive suggestion even without real support. My hope is that by knowing this, we might be encouraged to work more diligently at actually comprehending the scriptural information that doesn’t at first “feel right,” and so give it a chance to be heard and genuinely evaluated for truth.

(*3) Marriage; exclusively a terrestrial function:
The scriptures have already sufficiently shown this truth, but just for more interesting information I offer the writing of Enoch on the topic, as God sent him to relay a message to the married angels of Genesis 6:2-4:

“You being spiritual, holy, and living a life which is eternal, have polluted yourselves with women; have begotten in carnal blood; have lusted in the blood (lust) of men; and have done as those who are flesh and blood do.
These however die and perish.
Therefore have I given to them wives, that they might cohabitate with them; that sons might be born of them, and that this might be transacted upon earth but you from the beginning were made spiritual, living a life which is eternal, and not subject to death in all the generations of the world. Therefore I made not wives for you, because being spiritual, your dwelling is in heaven” The Ethiopic Book of Enoch 15:3-7 (*3b).

That sure adds a lot of insight into God’s Creation statement:
“…It is not good that man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him” Genesis 2:18.

It is curious to note that childbearing, while in this finite flesh on this earth, is what validates our god status as real creators in the here and now, yet our lack of childbearing in the eternity of heaven is what limits that same god status and is replaced by our eternal state as gods. It is God 430 Elohiym who created us and gave us our godhood in his image but the limitations to that godhood are the elements that keep us aware that we are not God and never will be. Any who receive Jesus Christ have been given power to the next development of eternal life; once we have been given the eternal Holy Spirit through repentance, we are his eternal children, sons of God (John 1:12-14).

(*3b) The Book of Enoch:
Take it or leave it as more support. Jude quoted from the related prophecy of Enoch to make a stronger point (Jude 1:14) so there is great validity to his very, very old prophecy. But through time his prophecy has been added to as well as broken up. Jude never declared he was quoting from a so-called “Book of Enoch” though he obviously got the prophecy from somewhere, and from what I read of it today; Enoch’s actual prophecy in this “Book of Enoch” has been corrupted by several pretenders including their additions in the name of Enoch, not the least being the Hebrew Kabbalah perversians (http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Judaism/kabbalah.html). Upon learning this distinction of Jude, (which does not encourage us to seek out a book of Enoch’s prophecies), originally I thought therefore it should not be used at all because of the grave danger of demons speaking as if by God to bring unrecoverable confusion to the reader, much like the Book of Mormon claiming to be a companion of the Bible. And this is without doubt a very serious concern.
But like the actual skeletons of giants being found today, both providing very great tangible support of the scriptures and destroying the theory of Evolution at the same time, these skeletal finds are being corrupted by demons adding their hoaxes, and therefore casting doubts on the very useful "real thing" as believed only by fools easily duped.
Enoch must have had more than the one line in Jude to prophesy, and we see the evidence of his prophecy scattered through undeclared quotes of scripture’s prophets. It is for this reason among others that I tentatively wonder if Enoch may be one of the two witnesses to share what he knows verbally and thereby instruct many to salvation in the Great Tribulation (Deuteronomy 17:6-7, Matthew 18:16+Revelation 11:3-7). I will tentatively and very carefully continue to quote Enoch from time to time as I determine them genuine and useful. But I will not present them as “proof” of anything, or additions to/or equal to scripture, and I will remain cognitive that they can be received in confusion as quoting from a hoax of demons.
Likewise, it also terrifies me to even repeat this whole “you are gods” line from the scripture because of man’s insatiable corruption of what is meant for good. I have much more information regarding how man will go about attempting to wrongly fulfill this concept, which will end the World age, but that will have to wait too.

(*4) God’s action of faith in us:
Risking a full corruption of my intent by an oversexed perverted culture today, Sex between husband and wife is a physical Type to show us God’s great desire of spiritual intimacy with us his bride (Luke 10:19,24:49, Acts 1:8, Romans 15:13,16:25-26, I Corinthians 2:5, II Corinthians 13:4, I Thessalonians 1:5, Philippians 2:13, etc.). The result should be a vibrant “glow” that everyone can notice! (Matthew 5:16); “Yep, she’s in love.”

(*5) Before Marriage?
Of course we know that the Christian’s marriage to the groom; (the Lamb and Word of God [Revelation 19:11-13]), will not be consummated until after the destruction of Mystery Babylon the great whore (Revelation 19:1-3), and the following wedding feast (Revelation 19:7-9), so how can I apply these *4 “here and now” passages to this concept of such “spiritual intimacy” before the marriage?
Actually I didn’t, I just said these were the evidences of God’s great desire for such intimacy! They are the engagement ring of the Holy Ghost, of consuming love, that “gives us wings” and “the power to conquer the world” in Type, just as our temporal love between man and fiancé does now. The actual action of marriage is even that much better than the mere kisses (works) of faith now (I Corinthians 2:9-10, Song of Solomon 1:2-3) while we wait longingly as scripture abundantly expresses we do (Romans 8:23-25, II Corinthians 5:4-9) and our temporally denied teenage hormones explain all too well. The Holy Spirit is the presence of the one who loves us, even before we are married! And now the I Thessalonians 4:13-18 harpazo (rapture) [Song of Solomon 2:13 *5b]) has a whole new goose-bump kind of excitement doesn’t it!? Why do you think they call it rapture?
But in the mean time we really need to act a bit more interested in the groom than the Church does today. The entire book of Acts is describing God’s intention of working in and through his bride in a supernatural way via his gift the Holy Ghost; with the Acts 8:13+21 “No Holy Ghost=No Salvation” message.

(*5b) Fig Trees:
In applying Song of Solomon 2:13 to the timing found in Matthew 24:32, it is important to note that Fig trees show their green fruit before leaves sprout (*5c). Therefore I believe we are actually seeing the harpazo (Rapture) “fruit” of the Church in Song of Solomon 2:13, and the woman that continues the song is the Jews still waiting the Matthew 24:32 “leaves”.

(*5c) “I suppose you all know what I have often seen for myself—the fig tree puts forth its fruit before its leaves.” - Charles Spurgeon “The Withered Fig Tree” (http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/2107.htm) a sermon September 29, 1889.

(*6) Why there will be no marriage in heaven:
I openly point out that the scriptures do not tell us directly, nor do the further details of the Book of Enoch as I know it, but from piecing together all these scriptural concepts that we have, it is quite clear that once in eternity our entire heart, mind, soul, and spirit will be free to enjoy God as our true and only spouse in actual consummated marriage in the eternal form. We faithful will all be his brides as the collective Church is his bride in the singular (Revelation 21:9-10), which is again why the Type of many wives for a single man is somehow often seen as OK in history and among some civilized nations but rarely permitting many men for one wife, (though I suspect that will change by the last days corruption, which might be an additional reason for this inclusion in I Timothy 5:9). God allows many wives if we really want it that way, because it is actually a proper Type, but it detracts from his intent of understanding our own personal, individual relationship with him and so he tells us he would rather that we don’t (Genesis 2:21-24, Malachi 2:14-15, Matthew 19:5-6, Ephesians 5:30-33, I Timothy 3:2,12, Titus 1:6), the same goes for divorce; another accurate Type that easily derails our proper understanding, just as it is abused and misapplied today in our temporal reality. According to God’s perspective, a commitment to marriage is a finality that is irrevocable no matter how bad the relationship gets or what the spouse does, but at some point he “allows” his wife the Divorce while his heart remains still married (Matthew 19:8).

(*7) And the passage goes on in Daniel 2:44 to describe not the coming of, but the setting up of Jesus Christ’s kingdom in the days of these kings (Rome, Islam 1, and 2= the fourth beast of Daniel 7:7-8), which Jesus did come in their day and “set up a kingdom, which shall never be destroyed” in the hearts of men as the foundation for that physical coming kingdom still pending arrival, and still in their day. We know that the non human seed has not yet again mingled with the seed of humanity in the same way as in the days of Noah… or do we? We have already learned that we won’t be able to tell! So the only means we have, is to identify the timing of their arrival and the human prep-work of nephilization required:

• The timing is right: “When men began to multiply on the face of the earth” Genesis 6:1.
• The kingdoms of iron and clay are about right: “In the days of these kings” Daniel 2:40-44.
• Our daughters are very fair, but is this now when: “the Sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair” Genesis 6:2?
• And by this and other evidences our humanity is nephilized, but again is it enough yet? “There were giants (nephil) in the earth in those days” Genesis 6:4.
I get ahead of myself; we will explore the answers in a later post.

*8 6151 Arab:
It is easy to raise an eyebrow at name recognition and suppose that the Arab people are the mingled people of prophecy, but I caution against this direct leap for the following reasons:
I am uncertain whether the law of first mentions applies in Joshua 15:52 because there “Arab” is a city and the meaning is:

694 ‘Arab; from 693; ambush; Arab, a place in Palestine:-- Arab.
Then in Joshua 15:61 we see:
Betharabah 1026 Beyth ha- ‘Arabah; from 1004 and 6160 with the article interposed; house of the Desert; Beth-ha-Arabah, a place in Palestine:-- Beth-arabah.
So in Joshua 18:18 we find its root:
Arabah 6160 ‘arabah; from 6150 (in the sense of sterility); a desert; especially (with the article prefixed) the (generally) sterile valley of the Jordan and its continuation to the Red Sea:-- Arabah, champaign, desert, evening, heaven, plain, wilderness. See also 1026.
So we look at:
6150 ‘arab; a primitive root (identical with 6148 through the idea of covering with a texture); to grow dusky at sundown:-- be darkened, (toward) evening.
And so we discover that although the spelling may be very similar, the meanings are numerous, albeit, all directly related.
Finally we get to what I think is the actual first mention in I Kings 10:15 “the kings of:”
Arabia 6153 ‘ereb; from 6150; dusk:-- +day, even (-ing, -tide), night.
II Chronicles 17:11 further connects the Arab people to all these meanings:
Arabians 6163 ‘Arabiy; or Arbiy; patrial [sic] from 6152; an Arabian or inhabitant of Arab (i.e. Arabia):-- Arabian.
So we look at:
6152 ‘Arab; from 6150; in the figurative sense of sterility; Arab (i.e. Arabia), a country East of Palestine:-- Arabia.

In summery: The ambush of a dark sterile blanket that covers the land as the sun goes down and leaves it desolate.

So just who are the Arabs anyway?
The Saudi Arabians are the people of Dedan (Ezekiel 38:13), the descendents of Jokshan, Abraham’s son by Keturah. Confusingly, they are not the mingled people of Sarah’s grandson Esau (Edomites=Idumeans) through Isaac, as he married Hagar’s (Egypt) granddaughter through Ishmael (Genesis 28:8-9); the descendents now being a blend of Edomite and Ishmaelite and roughly indistinguishably further commingled among the Palestinians today.
This confusion with the word mingled meaning Arab, and the Edomites being the people so mingled, is why today all those related Middle Eastern people united by Islam are rightly called “Arabs” but then wrongly assumed to be the Arab nation of a distincet people called Saudi Arabians.

With this intimate information of the word “Arab” we finally see a deep description of a destroying people like a darkening waste of almost indefinable origin with a desert like sterility that unavoidably and persistently encroaches in the end of the daylight period as a dark shadow that steadily grows across the fertile land as the sun sets.
Now with that understanding we add the last days prophecy “Arab” of Daniel 2:43:

Mingle 6151 arab; (Chaldean), ar-ab’; corresponding to 6148; to commingle:-- mingle (self), mix.
6148 ‘arab; a primary root; to braid, i.e. intermix; technically to traffic (as if by barter); also to give or be security (as a kind of exchange):-- engage, (inter-) meddle (with), mingle (self), mortgage, occupy, give pledges, be (-come, put in) surety, undertake.

This “Arab” is not directly the same meaning as the people of Arabia but by understanding the spirit of Arab we see the nature of these angelics that are prophesied to mingle themselves with the seed of men as the end comes (Matthew 24:3).
But now before you just assume the Arabs are universally hated by God with no hope, Acts 2:11 shows God’s special attention to include them as individuals in the offer of salvation if they will receive it as any Gentile might, and Ezekiel 38:13 shows that in the conflict of Revelation 20:7 after the famous 1000 years (Revelation 20:1-5), Arabia and Yemen will no longer be in conflict with Israel as Russia comes to take spoil in the famous Magog invasion.
So in this light we see that the human Arabs and the angelic “arabs” are as confusingly hard to distinguish as the Saudi Arabians and the Palestinian Idumeans. This is because they are the Types of the others, the one unto salvation and the other to eternal destruction.

(*9) Allah claims no son:
Qur’an Suras - Sahih International Translation:
(Do not even read these out loud for their great iniquity)

25:2 “He to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and who has not taken a son and has not had a partner in dominion and has created each thing and determined it with [precise] determination.”

17:111 “And say, ‘Praise to Allah, who has not taken a son and has had no partner in [His] dominion and has no [need of a] protector out of weakness; and glorify Him with [great] glorification.’"

6:101 “[He is] Originator of the heavens and the earth. How could He have a son when He does not have a companion and He created all things? And He is, of all things, Knowing.”

4:171 “O People of the Scripture, do not commit excess in your religion or say about Allah except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was but a messenger of Allah and His word which He directed to Mary and a soul [created at a command] from Him. So believe in Allah and His messengers. And do not say, "Three"; desist - it is better for you. Indeed, Allah is but one God. Exalted is He above having a son. To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and whatever is on the earth. And sufficient is Allah as Disposer of affairs.”

9:31 “They have taken their scholars and monks as lords besides Allah , and [also] the Messiah, the son of Mary. And they were not commanded except to worship one God; there is no deity except Him. Exalted is He above whatever they associate with Him.”

39:4 “If Allah had intended to take a son, He could have chosen from what He creates whatever He willed. Exalted is He; He is Allah , the One, the Prevailing.”

4:48 “Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly fabricated a tremendous sin.”

4:116 “Indeed, Allah does not forgive association with Him, but He forgives what is less than that for whom He wills. And he who associates others with Allah has certainly gone far astray.”

(*10) Allah; Moon god among many brethren: - (http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/moongod.htm).

(*11) The son of Allah:
The above Qur’an Suras do not actually claim Allah can’t have a son, just that he doesn’t now admit one, and certainly not Jesus the Christ that came in the flesh to die for mankind (I John 4:2-3, II John 1:7-9). The Qur’an is so eager to rightly make clear that Jesus was not Allah’s son that it denies any son whatsoever and confirms it by the fact that as God he has no possible God wife from which to produce such offspring (sura 6:101). Yet the Qur’an makes no apology for Allah’s deceitfulness and in fact notes it as an admired character trait of his (sura 3:54), calling himself Khayrul-Makireen (the greatest of all deceivers), and so it would not be outside of his nature to change his mind and produce a son if and when it seems to suit him, if he could only find a wife. Since our God and His word are guaranteed not to lie or change (Titus 1:2), (which is an admired character trait of His; James 1:17), we can be sure that because God already said it would be so, then it will be so; Allah will have a son. It’s guaranteed.
Now when he does, it won't trouble any of his followers because they expect him to change his mind and or lie, but what should concern them is that our unlying God declared it would happen before it does, so just who is actually the true God when it comes to pass? It’s easy to be right when you are allowed to constantly change to adapt to reality as it occurs; How do you disprove the unprovable? But to be the God that declares you never change and never make a mistake, and then make clear and specific predictions of things that have not yet happened (*11b), that’s hard to keep up for long as reality takes place to prove or disprove your predictions! So far, with many hundreds of very specific predictions already fulfilled, our God has never yet been wrong. It seems that the True God knows Islam’s Lying God better than he knows himself!

(*11b) “Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:”… Isaiah 46:9-10(+).

(*12) Incarcerated Angels Per Enoch:
“…I perceived a place which had neither the firmament of heaven above it, nor the solid ground underneath it (Revelation 9:2); neither was there water above it, not any thing on wing; but the spot was desolate… Then the angel said: This place, until the consummation of heaven and earth (Daniel 9:27), will be the prison of the stars, and the hosts of heaven (Deuteronomy 4:19,17:3, Daniel 8:9-10, Luke 2:13, Acts 7:42-43) . The stars which roll over fire (Hebrews 1:7) are those which transgressed the commandment of God before their time arrived; for they came not in their proper season. Therefore was He offended with them, and bound them, until the period of the consummation of their crimes in the secret year (Revelation 9:2-3, 11:7)” - Ethiopic Book of Enoch 18:13-16.

Note the “hosts of heaven” being declared distinct from the “stars” and so perhaps meaning their seed. This place is obviously the bottomless pit (Revelation 17:8) and we are informed that there is yet a designated time when some angels are allowed to do what these angels did out of time (Revelation 9:1)… as in the days of Noah.
Again, don’t use this non-scriptural passage to compose what will or should be, it’s just curious information in light of the truth we do know in scripture.

I find it curious why the scriptures as in Genesis 6 only reveals man’s part, while Enoch as in chapter 18 reveals the angel’s part. The answer seems obvious; The scriptures are written for man, while in confirmation, the Book of Enoch several times states that Enoch was sent among the Watchers to record events and speak for both parties as a messenger scribe between fallen angels and God. While the Scriptures were written for humanity, The Book of Enoch was written as a record for the angels:

“And behold the Watchers called me Enoch the scribe.
Then the Lord said to me: Enoch, scribe of righteousness, go tell the Watchers of heaven, who have deserted the lofty sky, and their holy everlasting station who have been polluted with women and have done as the sons of men do, by taking to themselves wives, and who have been greatly corrupted on the earth; That on the earth they shall never obtain peace and remission of sin. For they shall not rejoice in their offspring; they shall behold the slaughter of their beloved; shall lament for the destruction of their sons; and shall petition for ever; but shall not obtain mercy and peace” Ethiopic Book of Enoch 12:4-7.

Now we have a whole new view toward movies such as Meet Joe Black and Michael among many others, which teach our daughters to long for this!

(*13) Some familiar versions of demonic seeding like activity:
Incubus: 1. An evil spirit, supposed to lie upon a person in their sleep. 2. Any person or thing that oppresses or burdens. 3. Medical; Nightmare.
Succubus: a demon, especially one assuming female form to have sexual intercourse with men in their sleep. - Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary 1948.

I suggest by scripture that Succubus is an illusion, since there are no scriptural records of female angels and the big picture concept seems to make them improbable, therefore Succubus would probably more accurately be described as demons in drag; Sodomy in disguise. Not so attractive now huh?... even for a man of great natural lust.
*