Showing posts with label Daniel. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Daniel. Show all posts

Monday, October 15, 2012

The Clay

of Iron and Clay
Post 267
[Enhanced 5/10/13]

(Daniel 2:40-43)

The study of the clay has grown so large it will take several posts to complete.

The main topic of the previous post was the basic generic nature of prophetic iron. All iron is a kind of super strength (Daniel 2:40), whether used by Christ or the Beast. There is also a name brand Iron that has additional unique properties that we have not yet explored, but to comprehend that hybrid brand of Iron we must first discover the nature of clay.
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Generic clay:
What does the “first mention” of scripture tell us was the use of clay? Surprisingly it was not to make functional pottery!

“And the pots, and the shovels, and the basons: and all these vessels, which Hiram made to king Solomon for the house of the LORD, were of bright brass. In the plain of Jordan did the king cast them, in the clay ground between Sucoth and Zarthan (*1). And Solomon left all the vessels unweighed, because they were exceeding many: neither was the weight of the brass found out” I Kings 7:45-47.

In order to cast molten brass (II Chronicles 4:2) into shapes, the clay must first be worked into a mold of those intended shapes. So whether shaping the clay into pottery or shaping it into molds, the clay is still worked by a craftsman in basically the same principle; that is, it is accurately moistened and made pliable by vigorously stressing it until it is usable for its intended purpose of shape making. The amount of dampening, the degree of pliability, and even the way it is stressed may vary significantly for the application but the principle remains the same; The purpose of clay is to make shapes, i.e. forms.

“And the Lord God formed
(3335) man of the dust of the ground…” Genesis 2:7.

Formed 3335 yatsar; probably identical with 3334 (through the squeezing into shape); ([compare 3331]); to mould into a form; especially as a potter; figuratively, to determine (i.e. form a resolution):-- X earthen, fashion, form, frame, make(-r), potter, purpose.
3334 yatsar; a primitive root; to press (intransitive), i.e. be narrow; figuratively, be in distress:-- be distressed, be narrow, be straitened (in straits), be vexed.

I find it curious that the first scriptural use of the word “clay” is not of a valuable clay product but simply to give shape to a valuable product of brass! The brass itself is not even the sole actual desire but the properties of the brass along with the shape of the brass are a combination of the end desire and therefore its value. The clay has nothing to do with the properties of brass but a lot to do with the shape of its function and beauty and therefore its unique value among brass objects. In this use the clay is simply a disposable product as a tool to accomplish that end; a valuable molded brass product of worth. But clay itself can also be made into its own product of function and beauty with very different properties than brass (*2). This is a significant clue to the nature of all the GDE Empires, and how earthen clay can strangely be a nature in the same category of the several metals, and by its unique properties the clay can also form the brass and even the Iron Empire properties to its resulting function. This makes the clay very uniquely complex against the other material properties. But I get ahead of myself, let’s take this slower:
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Kinds of Clay?
Specifically distinguished as different from the other creation of plants birds and fish, animals are generically creatures of the earth (Genesis 1:24a). But the passage then informs us that there are further distinct different kinds within this earthen creatures group (Genesis 1:24-25). In other words, we have groups within a group among groups. Contrary to the scientifically provable wrong theories of Evolution, the Apostle Paul informs us plainly of this truth:

“All flesh is not the same flesh: but there is one kind of flesh of men, another flesh of beasts, another of fishes, and another of birds” I Corinthians 15:39.

If scientists really wanted to learn something, they should study what in the DNA is different and not what is the same. Dinosaurs were NOT of birds, nor man from apes.

Prophetically, Rome was pure iron while Islam-Past was Iron and Clay. So knowing that the strength of the Iron Beast’s Roman phase was the powerful law of merciless iron, we need to understand the clay in order to fully comprehend the nature of this Daniel 7 Iron Beast Empire group, which its first two Empires have already come and gone and the third phase is now rising with unexplainable public acceptance in spite of its unsavory nature.

“And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potters’ (6353) clay (2635) and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, foreasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry(2917) clay (2635). And as the toes of the feet were part of iron and part of clay (2635), so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken (8406)” Daniel 2:40-42.

The four connected verses of 40-43 describe the nature of the materials these Feet Empires and kingdoms are made of. We will later review verse 43 for still more specific details.
We have examined the basic properties of iron, which properties are in the legs, and also in the feet and toes of verse 40, and so we know that the properties of iron already past in history are also projected into the still rising second-foot GDE. But by confusion of the complexities we have wrongly presumed of the Feet a simplistic idea that the iron as pure and the clay as pure, are somehow united and thus form an internal conflict. But the Revelation 17:7 mystery is not “chunks” of iron particles smeared with clay like salad dressing on lettuce in a tossed salad, this would be no mystery at all; the mystery is the brand of Iron, who’s “impossible” hybrid properties are a mixture of element iron + element hybrid Clay, something like a hybrid car of combustion and electric, or like Oil based Latex paint. And now you notice by capitalization I have branded the clay too. This is like the complex mystery of a hybrid human/android driver of the hybrid car.
Some of the prophecies of these scriptures have been long hidden (Daniel 12:4, Revelation 10:4, I Thessalonians 5:1) perhaps to keep Satan off balance until the time, but more probably because we were simply not ready to receive this degree of complexity in our ability to lie to ourselves in the knowlege (Isaiah 48:7), much as the scientists of Darwin’s day had no idea that the Cell was far more complex than a simple blob of goo that functioned in a mysterious way, and so having concluded the plausibility of Evolution from such we are then shown by deeper scientific discovery that God was actually right all along. Having accepted this error as “proven truth” by simplicity, many are still not ready for this degree of study, but the time has come to understand the complexity and thereby advance beyond foolishness such as Evolution because of ignorance. The Daniel 7 fourth Diverse Beast being believed “all Roman” is simply ignorance of the scriptural complexities. And so is a simplistic iron and clay Empire.
In the next few posts, with the microscope of scripture, we will explore the three kinds of clay as we get closer to discovering how the angels breed with humanity. Don’t get confused by the underlined four clays in our above study passage; the generic lower case “clay” encompasses the three distinct kinds, but the third kind is not actually a kind but rather a specific condition, a state, of the two kinds:
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Two kinds of Clay:
These verses seem to intermingle the uses of Potter’s Clay, clay, and Miry Clay as if they were simply using insignificant filler words to say the same thing poetically, but this is not the nature of scripture, as was shown in Genesis regarding distinct kinds of creation, so we really need to take a closer look at the specific differences:

Potter’s 6353 (clay 2635) pechar; (Chaldean), from an unused root probably meaning to fashion; a potter:-- potter.

Miry 2917 (clay 2635) tiyn; (Chaldean), perhaps by interchange for a word corresponding to 2916; clay:-- miry.
2916 tiyt; (Hebrew) from an unused root meaning apparently to be sticky [rather perhaps a denominative from 2894, through the idea of dirt to be swept away]; mud, or clay; figuratively calamity:-- clay, dirt, mire.

clay 2635 chacaph; (Chaldean), from a root corresponding to that of 2636; a clod:-- clay.
2636 chacpac; reduplicated from an unused root meaning apparently to peel; a shred or scale:-- round thing.

What we end up with is as follows:
Potter’s Clay: a specific consistency of pliable earthen substance used by potters to mold into shapes for their intended use.
Miry Clay: Distinguished from potter’s clay in that it is significantly sticky and not desired by potters for its calamitous unsuitability for working into desired shapes and products; Bad Clay.
Clay: used generically to include either or both forms and therefore make another specific point regarding its basic nature as distinguished from the metallic natures. This lower case (c)lay is like the generic lower case (i)ron; it describes the basic properties of the raw material before “other defined natures” are specified. Just how these clays become the kinds they are is to be determined, but here the point is the two distinct kinds of natural clays; sheep and goats (Matthew 25:32-34,41). Just don’t miss that both kinds are still in the clay family; they are both clay.
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Clay:
Before we increase magnification into the complexities of specific brand Clays, we need to first examine the properties of clay as a generic substance. What does scripture tell us that clay is, beyond a 2635 “clod”?
Well, it’s funny, but in American society, people functioning in a brainless or undignified manor are actually dubbed “clods”. This scripture appears to be the source of this slang and it refers to their basic form of being made from dust (Genesis 2:7) by mixing it with water (John 9:6) to make the clay substance we call a human body, before God breathed a spirit into it to make a complete man:

“And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul” Genesis 2:7.

To make a man’s body from dust it must be formable, and so we know by science that God used water in the dust to make clay from which he formed man.

“Behold, he (God) put no trust in his servants; and his angels he charged with folly: How much less (trust) in them that dwell in houses of clay, whose foundation is in the dust, which are crushed (1792) before the moth (6211)?” Job 4:18-19.

Crushed 1792 daka’; a primitive root (compare 1794); to crumble; transitively, to bruise (literally or figuratively):-- beat to pieces, break (in pieces), bruise, contrite, crush, destroy, humble, oppress, smite.

Moth 6211 ‘ash; from 6244; a moth:-- moth
6244 ‘ashesh; a primitive root; probably to shrink, i.e. fail:-- be consumed.

To be so crushed in death by a fragile moth is indeed pitifully weak (Isaiah 51:8), but the definition of moth tends to suggest a shrinking by the drying-out of the clay to the breaking point, which is the topic of the verse. The passage goes on to describe man’s pitifully finite existence; typically dying without ever coming to comprehend wisdom, which is why God can’t put his trust in them, even less than with the angels who do not die but still failed. This is the comparative frame of man’s accumulated wisdom and abilities as God asks the question:

“Shall mortal man be more just than God? Shall a man be more pure than his maker?” Job 4:17.

Yet man, in his pitifully small wisdom and equally pitiful abilities, feels quite confident to challenge God’s claims of Creation, His wisdom and rights to ownership! But I digress; Man is a clod, prone to drying out.

In his suffering Job goes on to remark;

“Remember, I beseech thee, that thou hast made me as the clay; and wilt thou bring me into dust again?” Job 10:9.

How do you turn clay back into dust? By drying the water and then crushing it to powder. Don’t miss that scripturally, water is a hard to explain force, and only after compiling this mixture of water and dust into a form, did God introduce the air of the Spirit to give him a life for his clay body and he became a living soul (Genesis 2:7).
The scriptures are literally stuffed with verses that directly proclaim that humanity is clay. Godless man is clay and so are Christ’s people, but humanity is not just any generic clay; we are Potter’s Clay that has the perfect properties to be formed exactly as the Potter desires.
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The Potter’s Clay:

“But now, O LORD, thou art our father; we are the clay, and thou our potter; and we all are the work of thy hand”
Isaiah 64:8.

What we end up with is a body called a clay vessel:

“But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power (1411 force, miraculous power) may be of God, and not of us” II Corinthians 4:7.

What treasure is in these fragile vessels of clay from valueless dust? Verse 1-2 tells us it is the ministry handled in our humanity. So what is that ministry? 3:17 tells us it is “the Spirit, and the Spirit is the Lord, and where this Spirit is, there is liberty,” and verse 18 tells us that our lives which show this truth is the ministry. So, the treasure we contain within our earthen vessels is the presentation ministry of the miraculously powerful eternal Spirit working within our fragile flesh of dust. God breathed that miraculous spirit into us at our creation, simply being a Carbon based life form is indeed a treasure unspeakable! My point here is again that the clay vessel is not the real desire or value; the treasure shaped in the vessel mold is (Galatians 4:19). That treasure is the bright brass instruments for the Temple worship. The stresses that our clay suffers here on earth are what shapes that mold which then gives shape to the brass. An unstressed clay lump is just a clod. But did we shape ourselves or did the Potter form us? The above verse 7 proclaims it was the miraculous power of God that formed us, and although they try very hard to deny it, real science, in the recent discovery of information in the DNA, shows this claim to be true. This verse actually tells us that the purpose our eternal spirits are contained in our finite clay bodies is to ensure that we cannot take the credit for what our spirits are; the light of the knowledge of the glory of God displayed in Christ Jesus our Lord (II Corinthians 4:6+Matthew 5:14-16). This body-of-clay-that-contains-life concept is so prevalent in scripture, as well as science, that no reasonable scholar would reject this foundational concept; it’s the properties of the clay that interests me here. What happens when the clay molded somehow doesn’t turn out quite like the potter had in mind? Jeremiah provides a clear example:

“The word which came to Jeremiah from the LORD, saying, Arise, and go down to the potter’s house, and there I will cause thee to hear my words” Jeremiah 18:1-2.

The concept that God was revealing to Jeremiah needed a word-picture to truly grasp.

“Then I went down to the potter’s house, and, behold, he wrought a work on the wheels” v.3.

Don’t just skim over this part because it seems like filler; Here we see the potter was forming a specific piece on more than one wheel. This was a complex item he was working on that would take more than one part to complete the work. Such a work was not some casual thing he threw together as a demonstration for Jeremiah, this was a labor, a grand creation, a complex piece of art! No potter would create such a work from unworkable miry clay; this is potter’s clay he was using but the concept provided by the generic use of “clay” means the Potter was working with a clod. This understanding is important. Now we can move on:

“And the vessel that he made of clay was marred (7843) in the hand of the potter:…” v.4a.

marred 7843 shachath; a primitive root; to decay, i.e. (causatively) ruin (literally or figuratively):-- batter, cast off, corrupt(-er, thing), destroy(-er, -uction), lose, mar, perish, spill, spoiler, X utterly, waste(-r).

What just happened?
Perhaps the potter was unskilled and he needed another try to get it right. Perhaps. But because this is a prophetic word-picture from God we know this is not the actual meaning, as God does not make mistakes (Romans 9:21-24). The very word marred informs us that the potter did not make it wrong; it became wrong while still in his hand (Deuteronomy 9:7,24). The cause at this point is momentarily insignificant; the intent of the word-picture is the authority of the potter over the clay regardless of the circumstances of why things happen.
Now we can move on:

“…so he made it again another vessel, as seemed good to the potter to make it” v.4b.

(I shutter to ask this next question in today’s confused society of intellectuals, but I must): Do we question the authority of even a student in a pottery class to make and destroy and make again a cup or vase from a lump of pottery clay, how much more a Master Potter? What about the rights of the clay?
The clay has no rights; it’s clay. There is no pity on the clay, even when we as spectators have emotional empathy on the beautiful item formed of it, that was then destroyed by the potter because he didn’t like the way it turned out; It’s clay!
The reason why I am concerned for the response of our intellectual society of confusion in this matter is because even already today, by Hollywood’s encouragement to intentionally believe the unbelievable through the voluntary “Suspension of Unbelief” so that we can enjoy a fantasy, our very real society has unintentionally forgotten to “un-suspend” the truth. Now, in confusion of a distorted perspective of reality, they earnestly attribute human worth to animals by emotionally granting them the fanciful human emotion that they accepted in the “temporary” lie that they voluntarily accepted, but was then unable to completely “unaccepted” as they assumed that they could and did. There is no such thing as a consequence-free suspension of unbelief even though in theory it sounds wonderfully advantageous (II Thessalonians 2:11-12).
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The Suspension of Unbelief:
So how much longer until that same intellectual confusion, progresses to demand a discussion of whether the clay of the pottery student has rights or not? Is this honestly not the argument in Star Trek concerning Data the android in another carefully crafted environment requiring another Suspension of Unbelief? What fools we have become by our “harmless” voluntary compliance to believe what we know is not true for the sake of a momentary pleasure! The illusion of this miry pit by the charming but confusing descriptive phrase, is the appearance that we are not in danger of a permanent belief in the lie because we know it’s a lie and we have only temporarily “suspended the truth” to gain an otherwise impossible pleasure. Disney is currently the greatest open pusher of the concept, by an all-encompassing slow arch of the hands they instruct us to simply “Believe!”
By the unspoken message, we fully know the toipc we are supposed to believe is the untrue, the fantasy, magic.
While God wants you to believe in Jesus as the Truth, Disney wants you to “believe” specifically what is not true. This is not a faith in something, but rather an open-minded faith that contemplates their enchanting offering that is previously understood to be a false view of reality. But as followers of God this is forbidden (I John 4:1). Remember; if someone wants you to be neutral there are two things you can bank on: They aren’t, and you shouldn’t be either. And while Disney wants you to "believe" generally the delusion they show you, they have a specific something in mind, this belief is an open and defenseless gate through which they are marching their specific conqueror of truth. And Disney is not alone.

This discussion is worthy of an entire study: Consider your child’s “harmless” imagination of Superman and the many Superheroes (Deuteronomy 13:6-8). You have no fear that they will actually believe that they are reality when they grow up, after all they’re only children, but just how did the Greeks come to worship their gods Zeus and Dianna etc.? And how did they then turn from their nationally imagined gods by the fun and harmless suspension of unbelief, unto actually worshiping stone and wood idols with those names? What event causes a whole Eastern nation to actually bow down to a bronze image of a very fat dead man? It starts by the “harmless” Suspension of Unbelief in knowing it’s both forbidden and not true, but going there anyway as entertainment! So it is with Harry Potter for our Christian children. A suspension of unbelief is to knowingly choose to believe a lie for the sake of a momentary unnatural luxury, you do not easily come all the way back from such a folly but enough to think you have. And the next suspension picks up where the last one left off... from which you don’t come all the way back, etc. Eventually after years of not noticing the small steps left un-recovered, your teenage son starts dressing and acting like a druid and your teenage daughter starts dressing and acting like a whore in your own Christian home. But you don’t see the connection because it’s only entertainment. And before you know it they're not just acting like it anymore.
The HUGE American problem of child molestation often begins as a “harmless” pleasure of pornography in a “suspension of unbelief.” Drugs, theft, adultery, and Sodomy begin the same way; “I’m not wicked like those that do this, it’s just a harmless experiment” (*3).

But we must return to our topic of clay that molds the soul... Oh wait! We are on topic aren’t we? How do you suppose the potter’s clay was marred, i.e. decayed, ruined?
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Now back to Jeremiah:
Jeremiah learned this very clear word-picture at the potter’s house, now let’s see what the LORD told him after he made his observation so that His point could be understood:

“Then the word of the LORD came to me, saying,
O house of Israel, cannot I do with you as this potter? saith the LORD. Behold, as the clay is in the potter’s hand, so are ye in mine hand, O house of Israel.

Then God explains what he means, by providing examples:

At what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to pluck up, and to pull down, and to destroy it; If that nation, against whom I have pronounced, turn from their evil, I will repent of the evil that I thought to do unto them.
In this case God intended destruction because of the mar but the clay heeded the warning and turned from its corruption, and so God did not destroy it as He had planned (see the book of Jonah).

And at what instant I shall speak concerning a nation, and concerning a kingdom, to build and to plant it; If it do evil in my sight, that it obey not my voice, then I will repent of the good, wherewith I said I would benefit them.
In this case God had very good and favorable plans for this clay, and put a lot of work into, but it became marred and would not heed the warning, so God destroys what he himself said was intended to be glorious (see Ezekiel 16:6-43, Jude 1:5-6).

Now therefore go to, speak to the men of Judah, and to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, saying, Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I frame evil against you, and devise a device against you: return ye now every one from his evil way, and make your ways and your doings good” Jeremiah 18:5-11.
In this case God determined good and glorious things for his own people, but they became decayed in his hand, therefore he changed his intentions from benefit to destruction, and he warned them of his changed plans in case they wanted to repent and be saved.

Modern Christianity loves to wave the banner of Jesus Christ as the ultimate security blanket from which God cannot harm them as they continue in sin, but here in Jeremiah, God long ago established the fact that a promise of God does have its contingencies of honest and true compliance. Judah didn’t get the point of the message even though it could not be made more clear.
Oh how I beg you to buy “An Unconventional War” DVD (*4). The true recent story of how Uganda overcame their own God devised horrors by turning back to the LORD! This film clearly shows the long elusive secret of very real cause-and-effect for both evil and its cure. This secret is so desperately needed here in America as we are about to enter such horrors for our own decay, and like them we will long think helplessly that we are guiltlessly abused Christians enduring a holy suffering, and that God has unexplainably abandoned us with no cause or resolution and so we are left with only a long unfulfilled hope of rescue as our clay is pulverized, expecting that God will reward us for our faithful endurance! This concept is so important I intend to bring it up again in a few posts, by then you should have purchased your DVD copy, which we can discuss. I know so few Christians who actually understand this concept and this presentation puts it into practice in a very real, current events, way.

So what we learned by Jeremiah’s word-picture is that all humanity is potter’s clay, both the good and the bad. What we learned by God’s expounding on that word-picture is that, people, kingdoms, and nations of humanity are all of clay. According to God the clay itself has no intrinsic value beyond the product he desires to create from it. If the mold turns out true, he keeps it, if it turns out marred he destroys it and makes another. God is no respecter of persons; Pagan, Gentile, Muslim, Jew, or Christian, we are all equally accountable to God and all can be made true (Acts 10:34-35).

“And think not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to our father: for I say unto you, that God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham” Matthew 3:9.

I only imagine that those stones would first have to be crushed to powder and then with the addition of water stressed to make Potter’s clay to be raised up unto Abraham as children. I wonder if this is exactly what God is doing with the poor abused of Africa since American Christians have stopped singing his praises. Such a thing is clearly not beyond God, as he already did it with the Hebrews and 400 years in Egypt (Deuteronomy 4:20, Jeremiah 11:4). So now where is the confident waving of the “Jesus Christ” banner in one hand and a can of sin in the other as you cheer for his team like you were actually a player? Everybody likes fans but fans don’t join the victory party in the locker-room (Luke 13:26-27).
These things were plainly shown in Jeremiah’s word-picture and narrative. What we had to understand is that not all potter’s clay is going to hold the correct form and therefore will be needfully abused for remolding. Get over the “rights of the clay” protest, and quickly accept that even as potter’s clay we must readily be formable in the Maker’s hand and then hold that form without decay. The molding is not ours to do; our part is the holding after we are molded into the image of Christ:

“Let us hold fast the profession of our faith without wavering; (for he is faithful that promised;) And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:” Hebrews 10:23-24.

Our holding fast without wavering is possible BECAUSE we know by faith that God is faithful. Our “shape holding” comes from believing that if the potter made me in this image then it’s the shape he specifically wants and he knows that I can hold it (John 6:27) while the bright brass solidifies into that shape (John 6:29).

“There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry (1495)” I Corinthians 10:13-14.

What does idolatry have to do with escaping a fall to temptation? Only everything! It’s all about the image that we as clay take on, like pressing the clay into a die. Idolatry 1495 is the worship of an image. An image of what? Anything other than God. We are to worship God himself because as clay we take on the image of what we worship. God provides the way of escape but if we have taken on the image of something other than God, His escape is unavailable and we find ourselves marred and destined for destruction; Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry!

We learned that even in the hand of the Master Potter, the right kind of clay (Potter’s) has in it the ability to decay, (call it “slump”) and that ruin causes the Potter to decide to completely mash it down and make it into something else.
Speaking metaphorically as humanity, the vigorous working back into a pliable state is lengthy unspeakable suffering. God himself “devises a device” to do that job (usually iron), even if it’s a corrupted American government, Rome, Hitler, the LRA, or Islam-2. I intend to eventually cover in detail the specific mar that warrants a complete destruction and the specific need for a special device of iron to do the reworking, but for now let’s continue on topic.
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The Miry Clay:
What we get from this passage written in Babylonian Chaldean is that by using different specific words for clay it is clearly and intentionally speaking of two very different kinds of a singular basic substance; one pleasantly usable, though retaining the ability to become corrupt, and one unpleasantly unusable with a nature of corruption. This distinction is not immediately noticed until we discover the same phrase “miry clay” in the prophetic Hebrew Psalms:

“He brought me up also out of an horrible pit, out of the miry (3121) clay (2916), and set my feet upon a rock, and established my goings” Psalm 40:2.

If clay represents temporal life and both good and bad humanity is Potter’s Clay that can become marred, then what is this Miry Clay in the pit, which had David so quagmired? Let’s look at the Hebrew definition of these comparable words in Psalms against the Chaldean words used in Daniel, to see if they fit in any significant way, let’s break it down and start with:
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“Miry” of Miry Clay:

Miry
3121 yaven; from the same as 3196; properly dregs (as effervescing); hence mud:-- mire, miry.
3196 yayin; from an unused root meaning to effervesce; wine (as fermented); by implication intoxication:-- banqueting, wine, wine [-bibber].

Effervesce: …[Latin effervescere, from ex+fervescere to begin boiling, from fervere to boil.] 1. To bubble, hiss, and foam, as carbonated water. 2. To show exhilaration; to be boisterous - Webster’s.

I have no problem seeing both David’s use and the interpretation, to easily include the enslaving power of alcohol, drugs, or any number of other vices, including; anger, lust, willfulness, short sighted, etc., from which liberation becomes very difficult; i.e. “sticky” as the Chaldean put it. It is unworkable by its nature to cling where it’s not wanted and not cling where it is wanted; MUD! But is this the whole example of Miry? Hardly.
Corrie ten Boom’s sister Betsie gave Corrie, her now famous phrase; “There is no pit so deep that He is not deeper still”. Coming from a Nazi Concentration camp kind of pit, that really means something! There is a mire that is not your own but it gets on you with a hold that seems unshakable. It can simply be waiting in a pit into which you fall or it can be forced upon you by the clay of the mirey sea of humanity (Isaiah 57:20). This effervescing mire, like wine, seems to have an active mind of its own, which once attached, becomes hard to distinguish from your own clay. When a person is drunk are their actions and words their own or is it “the alcohol talking”? Isn’t it really just semantics? At that point, they are a drunk, and their words and actions are those of a drunk, and so is the result (Nahum 1:10). Extract them from the mire of alcohol and then it is not hard to distinguish their actions and words from those of the alcohol. This is the confusion of a Sex Slave, who by no desire of her own finds herself mired as a prostitute and is burdened by the guilt and consequences of being a prostitute. She is mired.

Now recall the brief discussion of the allurement to suspend unbelief; “I’m not a drunk I just had too much to drink!” While the addiction to alcohol is said to be physical there can be no such cause for the addiction to Porn, or Hollywood’s productions requiring a suspension of unbelief in order to enjoy its pleasure of unrealistic fantasy or acceptably broken morals. Yet the addiction is just as firm by the evidence of those mired in its effervescent grasp. I submit that the addiction is not the elemental problem itself but the love of the thing that lured us to suspend our God-commanded unbelief in iniquity (Romans 1:18). Therefore the addiction is primarily the mire of iniquity in our heart (Psalm 66:18, Acts 8:23) and not in our flesh as we are told by describing it as “a disease.” As long as we believe the addiction is in our flesh we ply no effort to eradicate it from our heart and the bond remains firm which is why many return to the addiction after a successful detox’. We have suspended our unbelief that the problem lies in the flesh and so we remain captive no matter how hard we battle it there.
What a fascinatingly confusing phrase but the complexity is extremely accurate! The phrase itself is miry while describing a miry topic. Yet simply return it to its scriptural state, and suddenly it becomes readily understood:

“Suspension of unbelief” = “believe a lie” (II Thessalonians 2:11).

Believe for a bit, what you do not believe, or in otherwords; “Try it, you’ll like it!”

Unclean:

A friend with perfect timing recently provided me with a concept that expanded my comprehension of this word. It was only yesterday morning that I found myself scripturally unclean. I repented, was forgiven under Christ’s blood, and went about my day working on perfecting this section of posts. Now of course as I write this in perfect hindsight it makes easy sense, but at the time, all day yesterday, I stopped work several times to spend in prayer because somehow the Spirit of the Lord was slightly distant. I found myself earnestly deep in the successful work of the Lord but somehow felt “alone”… not completely alone, just… “off.”
Prayer didn’t fix it, stopping my work to just bask in the Lord didn’t fix it, I worked 14 hours on these posts yesterday and made very good progress but still went to bed last night a little troubled; something was not quite right, but what?
This morning I awoke to the Lord “whispering in my ear” like pillow-talk as usual, my soul was refreshed and my spirit was giddy with the presence of God.
What immediately came to mind was my friend’s provided definition of:

Unclean: 169 akathartos (an adjective, derived from 1/A "not" and 2513/katharos, "clean, purged") – properly, not pure (because mixed), i.e. adulterated with "a wrong mix" and hence "unclean" (because tainted by sin). [The antonym, 2508/kathairo ("clean"), means "free from wrong mixture" (unadulterated, unmixed).]
- HELPS word studies (http://biblesuite.com/greek/169.htm).

The Strong's puts it like this:

Unclean 169 akathartos; from 1 (as a negative particle) and a presumed derivative of 2508 (mean, cleansed); impure (ceremonially, morally [lewd] or specifically [doemonic]):-- foul, unclean.
2508 kathairo; from 2513; to cleanse, i.e. (specifically) to prune; figuratively to expiate:-- purge.

What came clear to me by the Strong's definition is that unclean is the existence of contamination. What comes more clear by the HELPS definition is that unclean is a contamination of what was once pure.
What the Lord immediately showed me this morning in the scripture’s parameters regarding uncleanness, is that there is a specified period in which the unclean person remains unclean even after the rights of cleansing (forgiveness) are enacted (Leviticus 11:24-25,28,32,15:5,7-8,16,18,27,etc.). That period of purging ended as I slept and the Lord was eagerly waiting for me to awake so that we could continue. This is not a “punishment” of God, it is simply the way reality works; break a bone and it simply takes a calculable time to heal. A mire of sin is to think there are no lasting consequences in spite of the declaration by God that there are. Some are short and mere inconveniences while others are quite long and hazardous. The one unchecked by oneself in knowledge, always grows to become the other. Many Christians are so mired in a multitude of uncleanness that they NEVER hear from God, feel his close presence, or access his Power, and so they think that is the normal state (condition) of Christianity (See II Timothy 3:1-5 with focus on 5, rather than a focus on 1-4 to determine 5). "From such turn away" (II Timothy 3:5). This unclean is the folly of a practiced blending of a holy walk with God and a few small idols hidden under her delicate womanliness that no man intrudes upon by gender respect (Ezekiel 20:18, Genesis 31:34-35), which then makes her husband (the Lord) to be shown a fool for “ignorantly” defending her wrong doing (Isaiah 54:9).
Next we investigate David’s "brand" Hebrew word:
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“Clay” of Miry Clay:

Clay
2916 tiyt; from an unused root meaning apparently to be sticky [rather perhaps a denominative from 2894, through the idea of dirt to be swept away]; mud or clay; figuratively calamity:-- clay, dirt, mire.
2894 tuw; a primitive root; to sweep away:-- sweep.

It took a bit to understand how “dirt to be swept away” was “sticky.” Dry dirt is easily blown away and usually by little more than the wind. It’s when the dirt gets damp that it becomes a problem that takes more than casual sweeping to remove it. This damp unwanted sticky dirt is perhaps this Hebrew definition of sticky Clay. Now add the dregs of the unwanted Miry to the mix and we really have a dirty floor covered in an unwanted element of earth that will take a serious scrubbing to remove! I am reminded of the red clay earth of Hawaii that permanently stains everything from wood to clothes to the rubber on your sneakers. Its sticky consistency is worse than wet cement; it’s not watery soupy mud to be squeezed off, it’s wet glue; one step and your shoe has a 3” thick glob permanently attached and the next step seems to pick up even more, the whole earth seems to peal up as you walk!
It is important to point out that although these are two different words with two different definitions combined into the brand Miry Clay, there are other Hebrew words for clay that we will eventually cover. This specific 2916 “sticky” Clay is used only three times in scripture and the discovery is profound:

Isaiah 41:25 speaks of a potter treading on this sticky Clay because sticky clay is not acceptable to be used on the potter’s wheel. To the Potter- who with knowledge knows when he sees good and bad clay- sees no other potter’s use for this sticky Clay but as something to tread on with vigor as if in spite of its name of clay and him being a potter who works with clay.

“I have raised up one from the north, and he shall come: from the rising of the sun shall he call upon my name: and he shall come upon princes as upon morter, and as the potter treadeth clay (2916)” Isaiah 41:25.

Note: This treader does in fact call on the name of God from the first moment of dawn, and therefore is not the Assyrian treader of the Nahum passage below. Understand; God is the Potter, not this treader who calls on his name. It seems quite apparent that this treader is Jesus Christ in his second coming. Notice his specific targets are the morter/miry princes, not the general populous, which will or will not fall with those they follow.

Yes, you tread on Mortar Clay to make it useful (though for bricks and not for pottery), but you don’t tread on Potter’s Clay, a potter treads on Sticky/Miry Clay like the Miry Clay treads on Morter. Like Isaiah’s prophecy, Nahum 3:14 also connects this 2916 sticky Clay with morter by the treading. And we begin to see that the potter has cast the Sticky Clay into the street from his potter’s wheel in disgust, he has an actual reason and purpose for treading on this clay vigorously as with a frustrated vengeance for its unworkable nature. Nahum’s rare use of this specific kind of Clay supports Isaiah’s similar use as both events described are during overwhelming attacks:

“Draw thee waters for the siege, fortify thy strong holds: go in clay (2916), and tread the morter (2563), make strong the brickkiln” Nahum 3:14.

But here we see that this (2916) Sticky Clay is trodden to make it Morter for the bricks of defense that will be baked in a specially designed kiln…
Noooo, that’s not exactly what it says! What’s with the awkward wording; “go into clay”? I propose this verse is actually speaking to Satan:

“Become ‘Mr. Clay,’ the Assyrian, and tread the morter as a human being.”

Are you kidding!? Wow, does that affect the meaning or what?! Read that Isaiah 41:25 passage again and we see that this Nahum 3 Sticky Clay doing the trodding now, is the one that later gets trod upon in return for these beastly crimes. This is Gaston’s attack of the Beast’s kingdom, but now we see the cause (Isaiah 14:25). So if bricks for the wall of defense against God are made from fired morter and not from Miry Clay, What is Morter!?
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"Morter" of Potter's Clay:

Morter
2563 chomer; from 2560; properly, a bubbling up, i.e. of water, a wave; of earth, mire or clay (cement); also a heap; hence, a chomer or dry measure:-- clay, heap, homer, mire, motion.

So now we see that Mortar is like another kind of Clay, but not really a kind, rather a condition; a state, like savorless salt.

“Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men” Matthew 5:13.

It seems quite clear by this Matthew Passage that the people Jesus was talking to: ineffective Christians; i.e. the marred Potter’s Clay, can be snatched from the Potter’s wheel because they became this savorless mired Morter to be trod upon by Mr. Sticky Clay in preparation of being sent to the fire of the brickkiln to build walls of protection against God’s wrath!

By definition, this Potter’s Clay became this Morter because of the bubbling water of mire. Why and how is too complex to explain here but we will get to that in the next few posts. This 2563 Morter in the KJV is translated simply as clay eleven times.

“So now let me get this right; the Assyrian defender against God prepares for battle by drawing miry waters against the sege and then goes in as Miry Clay and treads on the Morter Clay to make cement for fired brick walls of defense from God?”
Yes, now you’re getting it! (Revelation 16:13-14,16).

“And ye have numbered the houses of Jerusalem, and the houses have ye broken down to fortify the wall. Ye made also a ditch between the two walls for the water of the old pool: but ye have not looked unto the maker thereof, neither had respect unto him that fashioned it long ago” Isaiah 22:10-11.

Just look at the profound multi-links in these seemingly unrelated passages! “Houses” are our clay bodies in which our brass dwells in the faith of God as the hypocritical city “Jerusalem”, “walls” are fortifications resisting the attacker, “the ditch between the opposing walls” and “water from the old pool while ignoring the Maker of it”… we will get to that in other posts. The cycles and Types in scripture seem to go on forever!

“So how does that plan work out?”
Continue reading the passage:

“There (at the treading of morter and preparation of the kiln) shall the fire devour thee; the sword shall cut thee off, it shall eat thee up like a cankerworm: (so if cankerworms are so successful) make thyself many as the cankerworm, make thyself many as the locusts. Thou hast multiplied thy merchants above the stars of heaven: (like) the cankerworm spoileth, and fleeth away. Thy crowned are as the locusts, and thy captains as the great grasshoppers, which camp in the hedges in the cold day, but when the sun (Son) ariseth they flee away, and their place is not known where they are (Hell?). Thy shepherds slumber, O king of Assyria: thy nobles shall dwell in the dust: thy people is scattered upon the mountains, and no man gathereth them (because you can’t). There is no healing of thy Genesis 3:15 bruise: thy wound is grievous: all that hear the bruit (report) of thee shall clap the hands over thee: for upon whom hath not thy wickedness passed continually?” Nahum 3:15-19.

“Not so good then right? That’s all you had to say; Not so good”.
Yes, but this “Bloody City” (Nahum 3:1) is not only the Nineveh-of-old, it is a telling of the end time prophetic Nineveh as well. We know this because “The Assyrian” has not yet conquered Judah/Jacob as he did the northern kingdom of Israel long ago: (read it; Isaiah 36-37). It was Rome not Assyria who later destroyed Jerusalem after Christ came, therefore it will happen yet again by the Assyrian as prophesied:

“O Assyrian, the rod of mine anger, and the staff in their hand is mine indignation. I will send him against an hypocritical nation, and against the people of my wrath will I give him a charge, to take spoil, and to take the prey, and to tread them down like the mire of the streets” Isaiah 10:5-6 (*5).

So do the Lord and the Assyrian king have some sort of pact? I mean this Assyrian, from his beginning, seems to calls upon God’s name in his actions. (Isaiah 41:25), But No:

“Howbeit he meaneth not so (to do the will of God), neither doeth his heart think so; but it is in his heart to destroy and cut off nations not a few. For he saith, Are not my (ten?) princes altogether kings?” Isaiah 10:7-8 (see also v.13-14)

Like but Unlike the II Chronicles 35:21 Pagan Pharaoh Necho “Assyrian” who did know he was doing God’s command, but didn’t know what God’s dual intent actually was (II Chronicles 35:22/Jeremiah 36:2+Jeremiah 46:1-17), this Assyrian thinks it’s all his own idea to conquer many nations, and for his own glory. This is the Antichrist Beast of Revelation 17, the king of the Daniel 2:42 Ten-Toes Empire of iron and clay. This Nineveh is the Mede seat of the Assyrian Beast that eventually destroys its manipulating whore Mystery Babylon whose seat is in the land of Chaldeans (Isaiah 13:17-20). But the hypocritical nation has to have something to be hypocritical about; meaning this is the image of Israel at some point in the future as it has the illusion of serving God but doesn’t (Isaiah 10:24-34, note “the high ones of stature”: v.33 being New Giants). The confusing distinction is that there are two described kinds of Assyrians in time and a third unidentified “‘one’ from the North country” that is wrongly assumed to be the same duplicitous Assyrian. The Isaiah 10 Assyrian is not the Isaiah 41 Northern conquerer in either form (*6), likewise the destroyed is also a variety of the wicked; both God’s people and other. Dehumanizing “the enemy” by finding distinction from ourselves is always the means to a self-protection mindframe that blinds us to the similarities that make us the same, and therefore in the same boat. Miry Clay and Morter Clay really are different, but both are cast into the street and trode upon.
OK, we got slightly ahead of ourselves:

The double enslavement of David’s effervescing-Miry, sticky-Clay is reminis-cent of quicksand or a tar pit, by composition; passively sticky, but of a bondage that almost with “a life of its own” sucks you ever deeper into its Hungry grasp! This is the pit of David’s sin, and this is the miry pit from which David found himself rescued by God when he called out to him for mercy! As exampled by the twin brothers Jacob and Esau; it’s the same pit but one is rescued and the other is not. Repentance through an awakening to God seems to be the significant difference and not their degrees of righteousness; Jacob the 3290 supplanter really wasn’t a “clean man” even after he acquired his blessing and God changed his name to Israel (Genesis 32:22-28)(*7). Like the Unclean after repentance, the purging of false reasoning takes time. It’s going to be a real shock when I reveal the details of Jacob’s still future punishment for the lifelong crime against his brother Esau! (Hosea 12:2-3a) but that will have to wait.
Because of repentance both David and Jacob were still clay but had been successfully extracted from the miry before they were utterly destroyed. So we see that mire, though intimately linked with clay, is not really humanity; it’s something else from the pit, though it is still clay. The Potter’s Clay of humanity can find itself deeply quagmired in the mire, even eventually beyond marred, it becomes Morter, like Miry Clay, it is troden. Not everyone so stuck in the mire will be rescued from it; Wherefore, my dearly beloved, flee from idolatry…. BEFORE you find yourself so stuck! This warning against idolatry is speaking of anything in which you put your trust other than God himself; like say, Oh, the Economy, stored goods, a job, a republican President, military protection, a concealed weapon, condoms, a spectator’s “Jesus” Pennant-Banner, a theology of safety in sin, or anything else from which you anticipate salvation from the consequense of mire that has you in its grasp.

“OK, I get Clay, I get Potter's Clay, I get Morter Clay, and I even get Mire; but what is sticky Miry Clay different from say Morter?”

Well, We now know that it is NOT plain humanity; that’s Potter’s Clay and Morter Clay, so now we can remove those elements as an option… sort of.
Obviously all clay is earthen, which means it is of the earth; i.e. temporal life. So what other element could make the distinguishing difference between clays? How about the water that makes clay of dust?
But that investigation will have to wait for another post.
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(*1) Hidden Meaning?

“In the plain of Jordan
(3383 descender) did the king cast them, in the clay ground between Sucoth (5523 booths) and Zarthan (from 6868 to pierce)” I kings 7:46.

I find this sentence provocative, as by the meanings of these place names we get a message of the Hebrew people, cast by God The King, into the “homeland” of Satan in the time between the hope of salvation and the Cross. What were the clay casts made for? To form the brass things for the Temple. What were the Hebrews in Canaan to do? They were to establish the pattern of the faith for God’s kingdom, in the time between Moses’ rescue and Jesus’ sacrifice. Once they fulfilled that purpose of establishing the pattern, they became marred, and God broke them down and re-stressed them for molding again. But clearly the brass items cast in clay were vessels themselves so what does the bright brass represent?
I am proposing in the primary layer, that the clay is our bodies of flesh in the temporal plane, the bright brass is the “quickened” (molten) spirit within those bodies, and the solidified molded spirit at death is what is used in the kingdom of God, filled with his Spirit, to implement those Holy rights for eternity. A bad mold would shape a bad spirit and so the mold is broken down in stress and remade while it is still pliable. When the mold is right the thing it shapes is right and the mold is no longer needed, our clay body is discarded in death while our bright brass spirit formed in the clay lives to the glory of God, filled with his Spirit.
It’s going to be easy to read “Reincarnation” here, but this is not the meaning. We have one life (Hebrews 9:27), and as we mess it up by unstable Mire, God breaks us down and rebuilds it, (Ecclesiastes 3:3). As we resist his design he re-moistens us and builds it anew (Jeremiah 31:28). Eventually, if we remain stubbornly resistant to his will, we are either too miry to work, or too dried out and unyielding, and the clay is cast out to be trodding upon. I am sure you have met both kinds of people. Emotionally unstable (II Timothy 3:6-7, Ephesians 4:14) or stiffnecked (Acts 7:51). The Potter is looking for Potter’s Clay (II Chronicles 16:9).

(*2) Treasured Clay Dishes:
To nephil man, the clay itself is where the beauty and value is and by valuing the clay’s beautiful form over its intended function he sees no purpose for stressing the clay after it is first moulded “Let the clay slump as the clay wishes, the clay has rights and the slump adds character!” This misplaced value in the clay is reflected in the costs of Fine China and brand names used to elevate the appeal of clay dishes now glorified by the title; “Stoneware”. Just do an internet search for “Stoneware Dinnerware” to see that even in the technological and advanced age of the 21st Century we are hardly different than thousands of years ago and we set our best tables with clay pottery as if the various properties of these fragile dishes was the ultimate in beauty perfection and value. Beautiful? Yes…when young, but not so much after it is scratched and chipped with use and finally broken and cast out as pottery eventually is. If only it had been cast in enduring brass!
Our beautiful bodies are but clay with a very thin varnish, and God does not take pleasure in our bodies (Psalm 147:10) but uses those specific properties to form the molten soul that is poured into it, which he does take pleasure in (Psalm 147:11). But I get ahead of myself again.

(*3) Katy Perry’s “I Kissed A Girl” lyrics
Songwriters: Dennis, Cathy; Gottwald, Lukasz; Martin, Max; Perry, Katy;

“This was never the way I planned, not my intention
I got so brave, drink in hand, lost my discretion
It's not what I'm used to, just wanna try you on
I'm curious for you caught my attention


[chorus]
I kissed a girl and I liked it, the taste of her cherry chapstick
I kissed a girl just to try it, I hope my boyfriend don't mind it
It felt so wrong, it felt so right, don't mean I'm in love tonight
I kissed a girl and I liked it, I liked it

No, I don't even know your name, it doesn't matter
You're my experimental game, just human nature
It's not what good girls do, not how they should behave
My head gets so confused, hard to obey


[repeat chorus]

Us girls we are so magical, soft skin, red lips, so kissable
Hard to resist, so touchable, too good to deny it
It ain't no big deal, it's innocent


[repeat chorus]”
- (http://www.elyrics.net/read/k/katy-perry-lyrics/i-kissed-a-girl-lyrics.html).

Just how innocent is it? She openly declares that she used to have discretion but lost it by alcohol and an unnatural attraction to the same gender. She admits it’s not normal, or right, and direct disobedience, and declares by not even knowing the other girl’s name it’s not love; just sexual, but although she says it meant nothing beyond an experimental game, she allows the possibility of it becoming love another night because she liked it. Finding that you like it is the very purpose of suspending one’s unbelief. All this has the real look of real homosexuality but because she names it an experiment then she does not perceive it as actually wicked, in fact it’s innocent… except now she’s confused.
Innocent? Just a Suspension of Unbelief for the sake of desired forbidden pleasure? Hardly. God calls it abomination (Romans 1:26 via Romans 1:24-25); changing the truth of God into a lie; i.e. folly. Does this mean there is no room for imagination or creative thinking? Of course not; there is acceptable and unacceptable. But breaking the commands of God is still broken whether in reality or fantasy because it shapes your internal brass treasure.

(*4) Purchase “An Unconventional War” DVD at: Explorationfilms.com (http://www.explorationfilms.com/exploration-films-broadcast-ss3.php).

(*5) Hasn’t This Already Happened by Rome?
It must be confessed that as we have discovered that several Empires fall under the singular 4th Diverse iron Beast of Daniel 7, it may be true that Rome in this light was indeed the intent of this verse, but only as the Devil is the declared Assyrian in all the Gentile Empires of record save Persia: (II Kings17:5-6, Ezekiel 23:1-7= Assyria, Isaiah 52:4+Lamentation 5:6= Egypt, Isaiah 23:13+Ezekiel 23:23= Babylon, Daniel 5:28, Esther3:1= Persia, Daniel 8:9-13,21-23= Greece, Daniel 9:26= Rome, Micah 5:5-6,Nahum 3:1-19= Assyria/Babylon union=Islam).
If none of this but Rome were found in scripture we would have to conclude that indeed the events that linked us to (*5) must have already happened by Rome in fulfillment of the prophecy. But because we have all these other connecting links we can be confident that the events of the topic’s passage are meant prophetically for the last Empire to fulfill. The mysterious absence of Persia in this otherwise complete list is most curious and must be explored in a later post. I will simply state here that it is directly found in the book of Esther.

(*6) The Isaiah 10 Assyrian is not the Isaiah 41 Northern conqueror:
This is a door I don’t wish to open here for its huge and complex topic. So I will only here identify Isaiah 63 as the Isaiah 41 Yeshua Christ, but with the very important concern that you do not mistake him for the Isaiah 10 Jesus of Islam who is the Assyrian! I warn you now, that Islam will use this Isaiah 63 passage to declare their Messiah from our own scriptures! Intellectual Christianity from a studied knowledge of scripture will be no defense against this new cancerous front. We must know our messiah’s very nature by an intimate experience of his Holy Spirit gift, so that we can possess the ability to cipher this and other passages correctly! The confusion is growing rapidly!

(*7) Jacob a prophetic Type of Israel’s final struggle:
This passage beginning with Genesis 32:22 shows a powerful prophetic Type of the nation Israel as Jacob sent over the river Jabbok (2999 pouring forth) his two wives and 11 sons, and is left behind empty to fight to gain his already promised blessing. This river is a picture of “crossing over” from this life, and as Israel is left behind we see this river is the Type of the Rapture. When left alone Jacob struggles hard to finally gain his promised blessing while his family continues on the other side until he joins them. There is soooo much here that will have to wait for a long away study, which I anticipate including in a later book of the Christian Path collection, titled; A Highway For Our God (Isaiah 40:3).
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Sunday, September 30, 2012

The Iron

of Iron and Clay
Post 265
(Genesis 3:15+6:4b=Daniel 2:43)

Remember we are continuing the Days of Noah investigation of the Angel theory that suggests angels can breed with human women and actually produce real offspring, which, with violence, is scripturally one event that precursored Global Destruction. In the previous Posts we clearly exposed the wrongful extension of that theory which supposes the nephil giants of that former day were the result of that angelic inter-breeding, though we haven’t yet explored what was the true cause. We have yet to discuss the actual genesis of the not-so-angelic nephil giants but right now we are still investigating more clues that confirm the angels actually produce children and in so doing play a specific part that brought about the flood by water and therefore will again at the end of this world age Christ described by; “as in the days of Noah,” but this time it will be by fire.
This Post did not start out to be an independent study of the Iron but without it the Clay will not make enough sense. Just how the angels and their offspring come into the topic will have to wait even longer until after we grasp the deeper meanings of iron and clay.

“And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay” Daniel 2:43.

The relative topic of our ongoing study is the “they” of this verse, who are obviously NOT the seed of men but nonetheless blend themselves contentiously with the seed of men. But this post is not about them yet; it’s about the iron of the Iron and Clay, which they Type. So to make things simpler to comprehend as we go, there are four parts to this verse: the Iron, the Clay, the Seed of Men, and the They; the one set is compared to the other set as an explanatory example. The problem is that we haven’t even comprehended the example-set yet! That’s what we are about to do, but as always; it’s not as simple as a surface reading imagines:
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It’s Not All About Rome:
The multi-metal image in the Daniel 2 dream of Babylon’s king Nebuchadnezzar provides identification of all the Global Dominate Empires beginning with his own Babylonian Empire and ending with the Matthew 24:3 “end of the world as we know it” Empire; i.e. the end of the global age such as was Noah’s Flood.
That Daniel 2 history, having now experienced the arrival and passing of all but the last Gentile GDE prophesied in that dream, can validate the accuracy of Daniel’s prophetic interpretation up until the last one that has not yet completed its term though it has already come and gone.
I find it simultaneously humorous and frustrating that my careful wording for the sake of accuracy seems to imitate the cryptic wring of the prophecy no matter how hard I try to avoid it. To speak less cryptically is to narrow the meaning so much that it no longer accurately describes the topic. I am confident that I can make the prophecy clear but it will take a lot of carefully selected words to do it while retaining the truth of all the details contained in the prophecy.
Our focus right now is on the iron that is clearly shown to be in the Empire of legs as well as in the Empire of feet, but since we are usually starting from the common premise that those four parts (2 legs and 2 feet) are all the same generic Empire of Rome, we must first walk through the Nebuchadnezzar image Empire-by-Empire to extract needed information for correct interpretation:

“This image’s head was of fine gold (Babylon), his breast and his arms of silver (Medo-Persia), his belly and his thighs of brass (Greece), his legs of iron (Rome), his feet part of iron and part of clay (Islamic Caliphate)” Daniel 2:32-33.

I realize that my Islam-Feet Empire interpretation kicks hard against the current Revived Rome theory that is so prevalent today, but history simply proves my general interpretation of Islam to be fact now entered into the historic record. I don’t mean to be harsh but those clinging to a too simplistic “Revived Rome” really need to catch up with the details of reality and review their dusty interpretation that was not actually wrong, just incomplete. If you will simply allow that my interpretation could be true and give me a genuine chance, I will in this post prove my claim beyond reasonable doubt. What you do with it then is up to you, but at least you gave it an honest ear:

“He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him” Proverbs 18:13.

The problem is that while still hung up on a “good preliminary theory” that was simply proven as limited by recent history, it will be even more difficult to accept my additional Second-Islamic-foot theory having not yet also become history to consider. Therefore, regardless of the Islamic first-foot historical fact, I confess this second-foot theory is only an extremely well founded theory at this time, which I will here show beyond reasonable question as most probable, and even being acceptably validated as to call it proper interpretation, though still limited. Other similar variations of interpretation available might be the two houses of Islam; Sunni and Shi’ite, as the meaning of the twin feet but I will show that concept to be misapplied. Another of the similar variations is that Revived Rome will be the second-foot, which again I will show is not a possible answer. All this will be done simply as a side topic while we explore the iron itself, which no serious scholar argues that this was indeed the identity of the Roman Empire and its two Legs of iron.
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Of The Strength of Iron:
In the subsequent Daniel 2:36-43 interpretation of this dream, Daniel includes details of toes not previously mentioned when presenting the dream earlier in 2:31-35, this omission in the telling of the dream is so that we firmly understand that the toes are not, in this sense, a separate empire from the feet yet still play a significantly unique role at the end of the Feet Empire, (pun intended by scripture).

“And whereas thou sawest the feet (Islamic) and toes (Islamic), part of potters’ clay (?) and part of iron (as was Rome), the kingdom shall be divided (6386); but there shall be in it of the strength of the iron, foreasmuch as thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay (?)” Daniel 2:41.

Kingdoms and Empires:

Babylon:

It is important when interpreting, to note that we have two different identifiers for each kingdom; a body part and the substance of that body part. Since Babylon was a single Empire composed of a single kingdom it is not necessary to distinguish the substance between Empire and kingdom; it’s one in the same because it was a lone part. Babylon was the first-grade interpretation of this dream. Now we are promoted to second-grade.

Medo-Persia:
Having said that, we have long incorrectly assumed the material composition alone is what makes a kingdom/Empire (as one in the same thing as was Babylon) rather than realizing it is the body part that makes a kingdom and multiple body parts of a single substance are combined can make a single Empire. We see this more complex Empire in the Chest and Arms composed of Silver that came after the simplicity of golden Babylon’s completely singular existence.
History shows that the kingdoms of Media and Persia; as body parts of two arms, were united to make up the singular Persian Empire as the Chest with the governing power represented by Silver as the uniting force. This is not a sterile “sum=sum” as there were not three kingdoms to coincide with “two arms and a chest” body parts. The material that all the parts were made of shows the “group” in which the parts belong, as related to the other groups; i.e. the form of governance that empowered these several parts into a recognizable Empire - in this case a singular chest. Any number of kingdoms can possess the same nature of governance represented by the material that they are composed of. In the case of Persia it was two independent kingdoms united into a unified and larger Empire of singular governance that eliminated the dual independence. In the image of a man, the downward progression shows two arms becoming a single chest: Media and Persia became the Persian Empire of Silver. You are now ready for third-grade.

Greece:
Next came the Empire of Greece that, opposite of the Persian Empire, started off as a single kingdom Empire represented as a brass belly, and in the end of that Empire it was divided into two great kingdoms as the brass thighs that emerged out of the Greek Empire (*1), both retaining the Greek order of governance represented by brass. These thighs not becoming legs shows that these two kingdoms were unable to sustain the GDE status of their Empire after it broke up.
Nonetheless, all these “phases” of the Greek Empire-as-body-parts had the similar unique governance represented by Brass. So we see that addition and subtraction of body parts are both shown in the process of making an Empire Group identified by their material composition, but the GDE is bigger than the sum of its parts separated. Now we are promoted to fourth-grade interpretation.

Rome:
After Greece came Rome; in surface appearance, just another GDE in the historically growing list, this one composed of iron. Again two kingdoms made up this Empire, but unlike Persia or Greece, this Empire has an added complexity; neither portion was ever joined to the other in a substantial singular body-part Empire and so we know the two elements, though both being iron by singular governance, remained independent. And one kingdom outlived the other by a thousand years. Rome Italy in the West came by itself as complete Rome, then Constantinople emerged parallel to Rome as Rome in the East. Eventually, by one increasing while the other decreased, Rome was simply “transferred” from West to East while both body parts were completely Rome. Rome Italy finally dried up as a GDE but the figurehead remained while Constantinople of the Eastern Byzantine Empire (*2) of Rome continued on, now completely Rome... but still quite different from Western Rome. The history of Rome provides the necessary key to understanding that these legs of the image were “walking” in time; one passing the other, as it were.

Ignoring for the moment other known passages that add yet more complexity to this simple Daniel 2 chart of Global Dominate Empires, we can see that we went from the simplest version of a single kingdom single Empire with a single nature of governance, to more complex Empires of multiple kingdoms added or subtracted, and even divided, as time progressed, yet all retaining the Empiric “nature” that defined them collectively as the Empires they were. These growing complexities have been explained by a convenient progression through history to show us how to identify the still more complex Empire that came next. Congratulations; we are promoted to Middle School interpretation.

Islam:
Notice that in the Daniel 2:41 verse above I positively identify both the feet and the toes as Islamic. This is because that Empire, with three body-part kingdoms, is described simply as “feet” in the original Daniel 2:33 presentation of the dream. Originally the Feet Empire is simply listed as its own empire exclusive from the Legs Empire; therefore the added complexity of the toes was not needed to make that distinction. And like all the previous GDE examples; at least one foot of Islam with the unique governing nature of Iron and Clay is now also positively identified as an independent GDE by history past. The common confusion is that for the first time, two separate Empires happen to have a shared nature of iron, though the second Empire has blended that iron nature with the addition of Clay, which combination identifies it’s unique composition as an independent GDE with some familiar elements in its governance to the one that came before it. The complexities continue to grow. Are you ready to be promoted to basic algebra interpretation?

Islam... Again:
It is true that the second foot of the historically proven Islamic-Feet-Empire has not yet come in time. But it is the scriptural twin body part of the original Foot Empire because it is scripturally stated to be composed of the same blended material. Therefore it is quite safe to declare positively that the second foot will be recognizably similar to the first foot; i.e. an Islamic Caliphate with the same “spirit” of governance like we saw with the two parts of Rome bypassing in time:

If R (Rome) = RI (Rome Italy) + BE (Byzantine Empire), then IC (Islamic Caliphate) = ICP (Islamic Caliphate Past) + ICF (Islamic Caliphate Future).

The two “parts” of Rome being slightly offset in time, though overlapping in the passing, educationally encourages us to consider that the feet at the end of those legs must also be even further offset in time as “walking feet” at the end of the walking legs that already did the passing before the feet materialized. These feet never overlap in time; one came and went fully before the other arrives.
Other passages of Prophecy add great complexity to this basic image, and by the complexity they further support this interpretation though they are speaking of completely different concepts regarding these same Empires. Just because they don’t teach you about Imaginary Numbers or Quantum Leap in Algebra does not make Algebra wrong, just as grade three interpretation did not nullify grade one though it sure makes grade one understanding seem almost irrelevant for its simplicity. In this post there are many such things of the other Prophecies that would only add confusion to this Daniel 2 Basic Point that is so foundationally important to those other levels of interpretation. The Revived Rome interpretation is a result of jumping classes and ignorantly attempting to add Geometry to Grade-Three interpretation. By staying in the proper order of class progression in scripture we can greatly diminish the confusion and false conclusions. And because we have now moved from researchable history to projecting (interpreting) the future, the class order is that much more important.

Still the Iron and Clay nature of Islam, but in a New Form:
Now we need to identify the toes, which are all clearly the same nature of material makeup as the two Iron and Clay Islamic Caliphate Feet that come before it. The toes, by omission, are listed in the early image presentation as a part of the feet Empire, and are attached to the feet just as the brass thighs of Greece were attached to the brass belly and so identified with Greece by the composition. Therefore it is safe to positively conclude that although clearly still a part of the Iron and Clay Islamic Empire of Feet, the Toes will nonetheless be a significant kingdom breakout from the Islamic Caliphate Empire’s established organization. This needs to be covered in more detail later but I will simply state here that this Islamic Empire of Toes will endure just seven years, plus perhaps a few months at best for the administrative jockeying that raises the Antichrist. (We will of course explore this in detail later). It is for the reason of its very short duration that I will hereafter usually identify the root Iron and Clay Empire as “two-part”, with the understanding that it has a very significant “third phase” of ten simultaneous kingdoms of authoritative power that are very quickly reduced to seven with the rise of its lone ultimate authority figure (Daniel 7:24). This new governing structure retains the Iron and Clay form of governance, which is Islam.
Again, there are other prophetic passages that give even more detail than that but in this prophetic Nebuchadnezzar dream the vision is limited to the basic GDEs so we too will avoid adding confusion at this time in the effort to discover the nature of Iron.
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Segregating Iron from Clay:
Now notice above, that in identifying the whole three-phase GDE of Islam that I put a question mark (?) for the Clay nature while positively identifying Rome with the nature of Iron. The reason I do this is because although we know the portion of iron in the Feet is “of the strength” that was identified first in the non-confusing pure iron legs of Rome, the Clay of Islam is something else entirely which we have not yet actually identified in history or elsewhere. Because of the Clay addition to the iron, we know the shared nature of iron between two Empires is not actually identifying the Empire itself but something similar in the “genetic makeup” of the Empire so represented. Daniel 2:41 confirms this by telling us plainly that the iron represents the strength and not exclusively the Empire itself;

iron = all Rome, but Rome does not = all iron.

Rome was simply an empire that had that strength nature when it came, but that doesn’t mean that “anything with iron” is Rome. Now if the Feet Empire that followed Rome was also composed of all iron, we could conclude that the feet were indeed a part of the legs Empire; as feet are attached to legs, and arms are attached to chest. But this is not the case, even though we are assured that a portion of the strength-nature of iron was also in the “part of Clay” Empire that followed Rome, which according to history was Islam-Past.
Daniel 2:40’s careful wording tells us that Rome’s composition was fully of the strength of iron and so acted like the nature of iron (which nature we are investigating), while Islam as the Feet only had “of the strength of iron” because some unknown percentage of Islam was also made up of Clay. Since Rome had no such hybrid complexity in its strength, it should be easier to identify in Rome what the iron of strength actually presents like, in the effort to identify the similar characteristic seen in Islam’s more complex Hybrid Iron portion. This discovery will help us extract the iron from Islam in order to then identify the Clay that remains.
But before we jump to the complex difficulty of separating Iron from Clay, is there another kingdom with iron that we can explore for clues to the pure nature of iron?
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Jesus Christ’s Iron Rod:
We have always seen the Iron of the 4th Diverse Beast as evil, but scripture makes clear that Jesus himself will come back to rule with a rod of iron:

“And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war…And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God”
Revelation 19:11-15.

Because of impostors like Allah, presenting themselves as “greater” than this Faithful and True God working through the power of iron, the next verse provides a positive identifier:

“And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS” Revelation 19:16.

We just learned a very important fact that iron is not bad in itself, just as sex is not bad in itself or guns are not bad in themselves… Sex and war are sometimes good, though they are often abused and misused giving them a bad reputation. The Beast of Iron is not evil because of the iron he can use, the Beast of Iron is evil because of how, when, and why he uses that iron: He is evil because he IS of iron and can’t help it when he acts like iron, it’s in his nature. It’s in his DNA.
Jesus Christ is not of the iron; iron, as a rod not a kingdom, is something he has the ability to use when he deems it appropriate but refrains from its use when it is not appropriate. This is the important symbolism of the American Eagle with “iron” arrows in one claw and the “peace branch” in the other. Though there are many natures of strength, the Beast of iron has no other option but iron. Rome gloried in their crushing violence, as did Hitler and the others, conquest by brutal power is the nature of iron. The death penalty is not for correction or rehabilitation; it is simply a means to utterly remove a damaging element from what you wish to protect. Iron does this job most effectively.
Another nature of iron is the refusal to receive an appeal (Hebrews 10:31, 12:17, Psalm 2:12). The scriptures inform us of the many steps that lead to such an iron heaven:

“And I will break the pride of your power; and I will make your heaven as iron, and your earth as brass:” Leviticus 26:19.

Way back at the beginning of the law, God revealed that all the GDE natures have this same amoral use if properly cleaned, and as Noah’s neighbors found out; while some things are not obligated to endure the fire, not everything can endure the water of separation that everything is obligated to experience:

“Only the gold, and the silver, the brass, the iron, the tin, and the lead, Every thing that may abide the fire, ye shall make it go through the fire, and it shall be clean: nevertheless it shall be purified with the water of separation: and all that abideth not the fire ye shall make go through the water (flood)” Numbers 31:22-23.

This shows us that although the kings with these natures are destroyed in the fire and/or the water, for the abuse of their dominions, the metallic “DNA” of their kingdom natures can and will be redeemed with the dominions of their collective kingdoms for God’s proper use:

“But all the silver, and gold, and vessels of brass and iron, are consecrated unto the LORD: they shall come into the treasury of the LORD” Joshua 6:19.

“…I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame. As concerning the rest of the beasts, they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were prolonged for a season and time” Daniel 7:11-12.

“I beheld…until…the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom” Daniel 7:21-22.

“But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end. And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him” Daniel 7:26-27.

“And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever” Revelation 11:15.

(See also Deuteronomy 8:9, I Chronicles 22:3,14-16, 29:7-8, II Chronicles 2:7).

OK, I jumped classes and by practiced understanding of Quantum Leap I have properly used the information of another passage here. This was to show the amoral nature of iron is nonetheless; to waste, destroy, punish, do away, and subdue the enemy with merciless and unapologetic thoroughness. The wise awareness of iron’s amoral nature is what makes my blood boil at our local driveway-signs reading; “War is not the Answer.” Tell me you wouldn’t use the power of iron to rightly protect your twelve year old daughter against her would be rapist. The vexation is in knowing that many of my neighbors would not. I cannot reach those so confused, but for others still making that determination, the scripture shows that Jesus Christ himself does not shy away from the needful use of iron.

If we don’t judge Christ Jesus for implementing his dominion with a rod of iron (Psalm 2:9), or judge God the Father for placing a destroying yoke of iron upon the necks of his own rebellious people (Deuteronomy 28:48), or for sending his people into the first iron furnace of Egypt (Deuteronomy 4:20) as a pre-warning not to turn from Him (+v.19), then how can we judge Islam or Hitler for implementing their god’s cruel iron over the earth? We can’t. We should only judge the justice of their use, and that by the law of God the Creator to whom every creature will be accountable (I Corinthians 15:27-28).
Job 28:2 tells us plainly that iron comes from out of the earth, so how will Christ Jesus use such earthly power of iron against his enemies? By the hand of his own people on earth: humans (Psalm 149:4-9, Daniel 7:22), just as he did through Joshua upon driving out the inhabitants of the Promised Land. This describes the reality that such a dominion is not a surrealistic “spiritual” thing, it is a very real implementation of justice here on earth, just as our American Founders implemented by blood sweat and tears, and as we should be doing now but have become too soft and spineless in our perverted warm-and-fuzzy Christianity of rainbows of tolerance and puffy clouds of unconditional love apologizing to the haters of God for offending their sensibilities. But, I have jumped ahead and you may need a more step-by-step approach to accept this truth.
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A Complex Divided Kingdom:
From the interpretation of Daniel 2:38-43 we note that although the Silver GDE had two arms representing the kingdoms of Media and Persia in a unified Empire, and the iron GDE of unified Rome had two legs of Western Rome Italy and the Eastern Byzantine Empire, only the Two-Feet-and-Ten-Toes Empire of Islam is specifically identified in scripture as divided, and so we know that the division is specifically speaking of the uniquely simultaneous conflicting natures of governance represented as Iron and Clay in the singular Empire and not the three different body parts of that Empire:

Divided 6386 pelag; (Chaldean) corresponding to 6385:-- divided.
6385 palag; a primitive root; to split (literally or figuratively):-- divide.

The strength of the Iron and the (yet undefined) relationally conflicting nature of the Clay are what make up the perpetual division through all three phases of this kingdom of feet and toes. Notice the following very interesting direct connection in scriptural-principle-Type, which seems to provide more information regarding these two incompatible natures:

“And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of the one was Peleg (6385); for in his days was the earth (776) divided (6385); and his brother’s name was Joktan (3355)” Genesis 10:25.

While this Peleg division son may perhaps be just a coincidental similarity, the deeper truth of the prophetic principle comes through when we discover the meaning and identity of Joktan:

Joktan 3355 Yoqtan; from 6994; he will be made little; Joktan, an Arabian patriarch:-- Joktan.
6994 qaton; a primitive root [rather denominative from 6996]; to diminish, i.e. be (causatively, make) diminutive or (figuratively) of no account:-- be a (make) small (thing), be not worthy.
6996 qatan; or qaton; from 6962; abbreviated, i.e. diminutive, literally (in quantity, size or number) or figuratively (in age or importance):-- least, less (-ser), little (one), small (-est, one, quantity, thing), young (-er, -est).

The direct and huge cyclic prophetic connection can hardly be denied as we are reminded of two other sons with such a foundational division: Isaac and Ishmael (Genesis 17:18-21), and yet again in Jacob and Esau (Genesis 25:22-23). You cannot be made little unless you were once big. Virtually all three examples of unequal family division is at a foundational level (*3).

Because of the known historically fulfilled portion of the prophecy, we can now understand that whatever is going on uniquely in the conflicting dual-material nature of the Feet Empire, did not happen in the two-part Arms or the two-part Legs Empires who’s natures were declared singular. So the fact that the feet also come in a pair has nothing to do with the division. These are two completely different mysteries to solve; Two feet, each with the same dual-nature. Do you understand? The division of the kingdom is because of the Iron and Clay, and not because of the multi-phases that the kingdom also happens to come in. This understanding actually really helps later as we explore Daniel 7’s entire ages as Diverse Beasts, of which the last one contains several of these Daniel 2 GDEs, much like the 7th Seal in Revelation 8:1 has its own multi-layered elements of seven Trumpets, who’s 7th (Revelation 11:15) likewise has its own multi-layered 7 elements.

“So where is the other foot?”
Scripture tells us that the first foot of the Islamic Empire, now fallen in history, was composed of the divided Iron and Clay and so the pending second foot of that Empire will too, making the pair the singular Empire of two-similar-parts like Rome’s legs but separated in Time rather than Geography. We just happen to be born in the exact short space between them as The Great American Pause in the storm (as perhaps a Type of Revelation 8:1) before it really gets ugly. Since the second foot has not yet arrived, this is rightly classed as still a theory. This Two-Foot theory will be proven or refuted as we watch the return of Islam rise to be the second foot having no other GDE exist between historical Islam-1 and theoretical Islam-2. The next GDE after the historically fallen Islam MUST be a foundationally very similar Islam or my Second-Foot interpretation is proven wrong. Since God declared to me the destruction of America for her folly (*4), I have been working night and day even before Obama took office, to get this theory out before it became current events. I think my writing is not fast enough to stay ahead as prophecy turns into history. Be very clear; historically and prophetically, Islam is without a doubt the first-foot already come and gone, the validity of my second-foot theory has little to do with that fact of history, though that fact in history has everything to do with validating my second-foot theory. Being always open to seriously review other acceptably plausible theories, it must be shown that Islam, now completely past in history, was indeed divided between houses of just who should rule the Caliphate (*5). This foundational division of Islam, starting just after the death of Mohammad, may perhaps be the division described as Iron and Clay but it cannot be the description of two Empiric feet as was exampled by Medo-Persia’s two arms of kingdoms or Rome’s two legs of East and West regions of administrative authority. To remain consistent in the prophecy, the twin feet must be a fundamental separation of actual ruling unified kingdoms within the singular Empire, which we did not see of Islam even though Islam-Past is done and gone. This strongly supports my theory that we have not yet seen Islam’s second foot, which must appear similar or equal to the first foot in kind, allowing differences in administration such as Rome’s Western and Eastern legs of governance which no one questions was “All Rome.” The historically dual kingdom situation of Rome is now tandem in Islam and is a related Type imitation of the Christ as he came and went without fulfilling all the prophecy, and by this we know that he is to return as unquestionably the same Christ, though in a very different administrative expression from before as we saw above his future use of iron. The Muslim 12th Imam Mahdi is no different in Type (*6): Islam must return because the prophecy shows a second foot that we have not yet seen, which has not done what the prophecy says it will do; i.e. sprout ten toes of the same dual nature as either foot.

We are now confident that the “whereas” in Daniel 2:41 above, clearly means that the division of the kingdom is a direct reflection of the mixture of Iron and Clay, yet the whole divided kingdom will still be relatively strong “forasmuch,” i.e. “by degree of,” the iron portion that is in it. How strong is it? It’s as strong as the percentage of Iron that is mixed with Clay. Clearly the Empire’s strength is its Iron in conflict with its obviously contrary Clay. But does that actually mean the Clay is weak? Wait and see!
Again we confirm that this is not describing the genesis of two feet. The iron is in both feet, as is the Clay. We could only rightly assume this divided mixture creates a kingdom-of-two-feet if one foot was Clay while the other was iron, but this is not the case by any interpretation. No, the Iron and the Clay are clearly mixed throughout the whole Empire, and as toes are medically classed as part of a foot yet also identified separately when attention is drawn to their detail, the “not actually an empire” Toes-Kingdom of the mysterious 8th king in a list of only 7 (Revelation 17:11), is not independent from the 8th empire foot that belongs as a mate to the 7th Empire, since the genetic “DNA” Empire material nature is the same; Iron and Clay, unlike the Roman iron-legs Empire emerging from the Greek Brass-thighs.
Therefore, how the body-part kingdoms are classed together into Empires is based upon their material composition, we cannot simply chuck apples and oranges into the same basket because they are both fruit and both come from trees. The Feet are not of the Legs Empire because they both have some iron, and neither are they divided because they come in a pair.

So how can this hybrid mixture of Iron and Clay natures result in a singular though divided kingdom? The answer has a Type clue in Islam’s divided religion of Shi’ite and Sunni still united in difficulty under a single Caliph Imam, but this divided religion does not necessarily express fully the Iron and Clay of the mixture; it only describes in Type how a divided kingdom can yet be singular. Likewise America, as perpetually dueling parties of Democrats and Republicans united in peace under one Constitution of Laws, America remained proudly United until the God of our unification was ejected in 1963-64, and now in the present, less than one generation later, the Obama Administration has declared our unifying document of foundational laws “A living document... with flaws," meaning it no longer possesses the stable power to unite our differing opinions; In effect, our Republic has been changed into a Democracy by nothing more than a change of perspective. Like the iron of that Document, we still need to discover the “DNA code” of both the Iron and the Clay of the Islamic Empire, and we are now discovering the iron first.
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An Entire Age of Iron:
While Daniel 2:41 plainly but quietly states this is a three-phase Empire, it is hidden behind the other more obviously interesting mystery of Iron and Clay. Zechariah 6:3 (http://when-did-reason-die.blogspot.com/2011/03/four-winds.html) describes a specific definition between the Empires of Rome and Islam with symbols of Grisled and Bay horses in a single Chariot represented as the Daniel 7 Fourth Diverse Beast, which has more than one Empire.
Zechariah 1:8 strongly suggests a still further division of the two-feet Empire into toes by describing Speckled horses, which are simply a further distilled specification of the Bay (red).
Finally Revelation 17:10-11 confirms the king of the second-foot-and-toes Empire by declaring a kind of 8th king in a list of specifically only 7, suggesting that he is a returning player but with a distilled uniqueness all his own:

“And there are seven kings:
Five
(1,2,3,4,5) are fallen, and one is (#6),
and the other
(#7) is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth
(#8), and is of the seven(1,2,3,4,5,6,7), and goeth into perdition” Revelation 17:10-11.

Here we are informed that this whole Revelation 17:7 narration regarding a specific beast (lower case) is talking about one that is not even classed in the list of the world’s seven GDE kings. Amazingly Revelation 13:2 describes this Revelation 17:11 #8 beast king as having the natures of #5 Greece, #4 Persia, and #3 Babylon:

“And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard (Greece), and his feet were as the feet of a bear (Persia), and his mouth as the mouth of a lion (Babylon): and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority” Revelation 13:2 (Compare with Daniel 7:19-20).

Now we begin to understand the specific wording; “he is the eighth, and is of the seven”; not “of the seventh” or “of one of the seven”. And by not mentioning the first two Empires of old, we see a last Beast/beast that incorporates the descriptions of all the previous Diverse Beast Ages of Daniel 7.

“But wait just a second” I hear you say, “how do you see the beast of Rome represented in that passage?”

What animal represented the Fourth Diverse Beast in the Daniel 7:7 description? None. The identity of the Fourth Diverse Beast (commonly understated as Rome) was simply the Iron in the teeth of a dreadful, terrible, and exceedingly strong monster. Daniel 2:40 informs us that the unique identifying element of that Beast was “the strength/u> (5326) of the iron”, and v.41 shows the Feet Empire was ”of the strength” too.

Strength 5326 nitsbah; (Chaldean); from a root corresponding to 5324; fixedness, i.e. firmness:-- Strength.
5324 natsba; a primitive root; to station, in various applications (literally or figuratively):-- appointed, deputy, erect, establish…lay, officer, pillar, present, rear up, set (over, up), settle, sharpen, stablish, (make to) stand (-ing, still, up, upright), best state.

It is interesting that this word strength does not appear to be aggressive but only the ability to be established and remain unmoved where and how it is, yet we see in the narrative that this Beast, beginning with its Rome phase, is extremely aggressive (Daniel 7:7).
Reviewing the Revelation 13:2 verse, as we contemplate this last Diverse Beast as an Age, we begin to see that each of the first 3 Diverse Beasts had a unique characteristic that this 4th Beast possesses; I am only conjecturing what that characteristic represents but the basic foundation of this Beast’s strength is perhaps the fast tearing of the Leopard of Greece as non-brittle brass nails (Daniel 7:19), The now “fast” locomotion and treading element of the massive troop movement of powerful, intimidating Persia as silver feet from which nails attach (Daniel 7:19), And the speech of the now “fast and powerful” Beast is as the golden mouth of a lion (Daniel 7:20); loud and confident and glorious as Babylon’s arrogant Nebuchadnezzar (Daniel 7:11a,20b,25, 13:5-6). This fast, powerful, smooth talking, confident combination of all the natures of the previous Diverse Beasts is itself the power of the Beast that also has powerful iron teeth (Daniel 7:19). That Iron Beast element comes in two distinct Empires of body-parts as independent Empires with a common Beast “DNA” of Iron to be added to this last multi-talented Diverse-Beast Age.
That Daniel 7, 4th Diverse Age began with the rise of Rome that besieged Jerusalem, destroyed the Temple, and starved to death millions of Jews confined behind the stone “barbwire” of their "internment compound" under the military guard of siege. Does that sound like Hitler’s concentration camps? It is exactly the same because it’s all the 4th Diverse Beast Age of iron.

Acts 2:17, II Timothy 3:1, Hebrews 1:2 all speak of the last days in the present tense; The Last Days are the Age of the 4th Diverse Beast that comes with a short list of GDEs to administer it, Rome was simply the first. Do you really want to know what the streets of Jerusalem looked like in 70 AD? We have black and white moving footage of it in the 1945 British and American war films of incomprehensible horrors as they found it upon their successful liberation of Hitler’s camps. I highly recommend the PBS Frontline presentation of the actual original archival reels under the title; “Memory of the Camps” (though it’s not for the young or the delicate).
By understanding this concept of a whole Age of iron, we see Stalin, Hitler, Chairman Mao, etc., etc., as simply lesser insignificant kings in the Age of Iron in which there are three Global Dominate Iron Empires. Two are past, One remains to rise, but that One will have two phases, and the second phase will have two phases; it seems the already unspeakable horrors are still distilling its horribleness!
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But wait, In our present Revelation 13:2 passage, the Beast that rises from the sea of humanity comes with 7 heads (v.1), but I count only 4 listed;

1. The beast of discussion identified by Power,
2. The Leopard beast,
3. The Bear beast,
4. and the Lion beast.

We now know the Iron Power Beast comes divided in two Empires (Rome and Islam), but that still only lists 5 probable heads. But with the Revelation 17:11 description of 8 total we are able to see that Revelation 13 adds the very first two GDEs; Assyria and Egypt for a total of 7 heads all viewed from the reverse order as the present looks backwards in time, (Revelation 17:9 heads=mountains=Empires). The 8th “head” is the one that is of the 7, showing that Islam's single head comes twice.
And, as the crowning glory of this Beast of world history with 7 heads, there arises 10 last kings as horns as toes (*7)(Revelation 17:12-13=Daniel 7:7-8+24) with 10 last crowns, from which a single Great Horn emerges as if the 11th. This is finally the actual last GDE king, the son of perdition, the seed of Satan. The one who would subvert the role of Christ the King; this is Antichrist.
All these former natures distilled into a single Empire king are the diverse elements that make this last Beast function so well. The resulting strength of the Beast that embodies all the unique strengths of the combined previous Empires is; the strength to establish, and remain established, as is, unaltered, undamaged, unafraid, and therefore be fearlessly and aggressively violent above all others having no equal and no one to stop him:

“…and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? Who is able to make war with him?” Revelation 13:4.

This strength of merciless violence, speed, mass, and confidence, is the pure iron-will that empowered its youthful phase of merciless Rome to conquer and move the sea of humanity as history shows. Then the Beast matured into its next phase of Islam, retaining its iron power but now also mixed with it the yet undefined Clay that changed its nature by some significant degree. What was that element? We will have to wait for the post on Clay, but by identifying the similarities in the natures of Rome and Islam and Christ’s iron rule, we see that perhaps the iron is the loyalty to an unmoving ideal; first the ideal of Roman law, and next the ideal of Islamic law and lastly the ideal of Christ’s law. Ideology is perhaps the most powerful force on earth, but I get ahead of myself.
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Why is this iron distinction prophecy so important to us today?
It is important because the illusion of presentation is even now convincing humanity that there is a desirable Iron Empire rising that we should all accept for the Global Peace it promises (I Thessalonians 5:3-4, Micah 3:4-5). Scripture tells us it is a ruse just as the strong tender and patient leading of a rancher confidently guides the sheep quietly into a specific alley… for easy slaughter (Zechariah 11:15-17). This is not insignificant as we have the example of Hitler who confidently promised the German nation quick relief from national hunger and economic collapse, but through the economic boost of war gave them instead the permanent label of unspeakable mass murderer and ultimate self-destruction. Today we see another fresh example in Egypt, when guided by an organized seeking for relief from government corruption; they threw off their protection from radical Islam and then took to their leadership the Muslim Brotherhood. The spirit of Global Peace that now intoxicates the world through the promise of Democracy will not produce the lasting peace that it promises but the sheep continue crowding into that alley by a very Mysterious draw of being pushed from the rear.
How do I know this will end badly? Because prophecy shows the dominion of the 4th Diverse Beast of Iron continues as Clay masked Iron regardless of how many various Empires it comes in. This is not my opinion, I am not offering this as conjecture; this is the prophecy of scripture, though for a time I will be seen to be obviously in error as “real peace” promises to become an apparent reality (Zechariah 1:11):

“For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape. But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief”
I Thessalonians 5:3-4.

The example in this verse tells us that as a pregnant woman, the ever-increasing pain comes and goes in waves. The unbearable suffering comes in strength and then subsides. The ever-shrinking periods between the suffering is really quite pleasant in comparison; all is well, go back to sleep, nothing to worry about... Then WHAM! The suffering begins again, only stronger than before, which you didn’t think was possible until it came! This Genesis 3:15 demonic seed baby is coming, but the nation movers are gently singing denial to quiet the sheep as they slowly and gently nudge them further into the alley. It’s not really about the slaughter; it’s about whether you are an innocent victim or a German guard that ensures the victimization (John 12:23-27).

“Woe unto the world because of offences! For it must needs be that offences come; but woe to that man by whom the offence cometh!” Matthew 18:7.

When you watch the Holocaust footage you have to ask; “How much more woe can there be beyond what those innocents suffered?” This verse expresses God’s perspective on that. The woe stored up for the guilty would make us all flee to those camps for relief! Oh dear guilty, Repent and be made clean by the blood of Jesus Christ, before it’s time to pay the price yourself! (Ezekiel 33:1-5+15-16).

Gun Control: The reason why the iron distinction prophecy is so important today is because this very structured iron regime of Allah’s faith that will end so horribly is carefully planned by Satan to “educate” mankind against any such future similarities. Satan is intentionally destroying the reception of Christ’s rule of iron because “all iron is bad” will be the unquestionable belief proven by unspeakable experience. It will be like attempting to tell a Jew that the Third Reich is a good idea! That sounds preposterous but let me show that this is not a future concept, we have already fallen to the confusion:
Capitol punishment was once the law in America because it was God’s law.

“And he that killeth any man shall surely be put to death” Leviticus 24:17 among others.

Is that too "Old Testament" for you who stand confident in the Grace of Christianity? Try it in the New Testament:

“He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints” Revelation 13:10, among others.

Though few were warped enough to take pleasure in carrying out the law, everyone knew the law was just and good for the land. But today “All killing is bad,” is the mentality behind the driveway-signs stating; “War is not the answer.” Permissive tolerance of every kind of evil is the only alternative, which is today’s American Christianity of unconditional grace, and this is exactly where Satan wants to lead humanity by his worldwide violence. This is what produces the success of Mystery Babylon’s great wickedness in utter repulsion to God and his hateful iron law. Today’s Christians have already utterly cast off the Old Testament and everything in it, this is not a future concept.
Want more evidence? In WWII the Japanese Americans were interned in camps to protect America against potential enemy alies. Was it horrible? Yes it was. But in our emotional response to avoid repeating such wrongs, we now intentionally appoint Muslims to “National Security” positions of the Government of the United States while we are at war with Islam’s terrorists!(*8). We cannot say “No” or we are accused of repeating the crimes of WWII.
This was Satan’s long term intent for the WWII camps.
I warned you that we have entered the age of confusion!
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It’s not time to choose; we have already chosen:
While we did not personally experience the degree of violence in the previous GDEs for comparison, there is no doubt that the 20th Century was by far the most murderous ever recorded to this point. “Shepherds” like;
Chairman Mao (http://www.moreorless.au.com/killers/mao.html),
Adolf Hitler (http://homepage.eircom.net/~finnegam/war/adolf_hitler.htm),
Joseph Stalin (http://www.distributedrepublic.net/archives/2006/05/01/how-many-did-stalin-really-murder/),
and many others (http://www.scaruffi.com/politics/dictat.html),
murdered in unspeakable mass even their own people by starvation, chemical research, military arms, wild animals, fire, and other, with seemingly no real purpose other than an insatiable lust for death. All this even before the rise of Islam 2, let alone the Antichrist portion!
President Ronald Reagan seemed to recognize this truth when he said:

“You and I have a rendezvous with destiny. We will preserve for our children this, the last best hope of man on earth, or we will sentence them to take the first step into a thousand years of darkness. If we fail, at least let our children and our children's children say of us we justified our brief moment here. We did all that could be done.” - Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States.

From the national choices that we made after Reagan, it does not appear like we have accepted his challenge but instead are making league with the darkness!
The question is why?

Do you really imagine the angels of Genesis 6 were doing just fine until the young ladies began to put on a particularly exotic shade of lipstick that they just couldn’t resist? No, there was something beyond the illusion of beauty that drew the angels to their folly. And likewise there is something else in the “DNA” of this particular brand of Iron, other than war, that distinguishes it from the common war power of the Gold, Silver, or Brass Empires that came before it, or that which will come with Christ’s kingdom after it. That “something,” for both men and women, is the Genesis 6 Nephilization of humanity that causes our school children to shoot random fellow students in class such as in the case of Columbine (http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-04-13-columbine-myths_N.htm). It’s the same source that causes our middle school daughters by their unintentional precocious sexualization to defraud not only their fellow students but their teachers as well, or our young female teachers to attempt to find fulfillment by seducing their juvenile male students. We can blame it on demons if we want, but it is just us; we are doing these things to ourselves and too dull of spirit to even know why or how, or how to stop it even if we really wanted to. This is perhaps the perfect setting the angels carefully waited for so that they can rush in and “save the day”… but we will discuss that in another post.
What really tears out my heart is that Christians overconfident in their “salvation by grace” (Ephesians 2:8), are fully convinced I am preaching the heresy of an "iron" legalism, and so they show a corrupt one-wheeled vehicle of faith by which that grace comes. Corrupt faith brings corrupt grace. Ephesians 2:10 speaks of the true faith with a clear purpose that brings the kind of grace to “DO”;

“For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them”.

These lawless dirty-grace Christians are already standing with the Great Whore, because they actually are married to Christ while they fornicate with iniquity! This is the folly of the angels!
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(*1) Four or Two?
This complexity will not be discussed in this post but for confidence of scripture I point out that Daniel 8:21-22 shows the four kingdoms of Brass Greece that emerged and did not die for a later Antichrist Type involvement, though only two great kingdoms remained as the official brass thighs of Greece. For details please see Al Maxey’s “The Ptolemies & Seleucids “ (http://www.zianet.com/maxey/Inter2.htm).

(*2) Rome and Byzantium:
Everyone knows of the Roman Empire but few Americans know anything about its Eastern twin leg of the Byzantine Empire (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Empire) that out lived Rome by 1000 years from the city of Byzantium, better known as Constantinople.

(*3) The Peleg Foundation of Unequal Division:
This family division is unavoidably explained in Type by the very real splitting of the continents (776) in a sudden catastrophic tectonic plate action (and not slowly over billions of years, before man arrived). Suddenly we don’t need land bridges that “sunk” slowly, or giant ice sheets spanning oceans, or impossible canoe trips across seas, for people to be found spread across every landmass of the globe. That was not just an earthquake; it was a planetary Peleg! It might sound a lot like Pangaea, but this was something that happened in a single lifespan.

Earth 776 ‘erets; from an unused root probably meaning to be firm; the earth (at large, or partitively a land):-- x common, country, earth, field, ground, land, x nations, way, + wilderness, world.

While it is easy to see the prophetic meaning of his brother’s name, we just as easily skip over the meaning of Peleg: “…for in his days was the earth divided…” Sure we have little problem understanding this actually means a great land-altering event of unimaginable magnitude, but that definition seems utterly remote from his brother. Only when we combine the meanings of their names do we get the hidden prophecy. It was the separation of Peleg that revealed his brother’s diminishment. This is profound in meaning as it suggests the diminishing of his brother is kindof Peleg’s “fault.”
Now stay with me. By separating ourselves as God’s people, from the Pagan world, our action in fact automatically diminishes our brother human beings who are not God’s people. It’s not intentional; it’s just a matter of fact of the situation. By its very nature the acceptance of truth excludes everything else. This is the reason why Christians are attacked as; “narrow minded,” “holier than thou,” “bigoted,” and “judgmental.” The very nature of the faith is exclusive of everything not of the faith. (The fact that fallen Christians actually commit these named crimes against them, and so justify the complaint, does not help the righteousness of the faith). With this Peleg comprehension; suddenly Christians come face to face with a very uncomfortable nature of Christianity found in Jesus own words:

“Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, Nay; but rather division:…” Luke 12:51-53 (also Mark 13:12-13).

We always thought it was Satan’s people who instigated the division but in fact it is that we have separated ourselves from them and in so doing state without words; “You are not God’s people.” This of course offends their sensibilities and so in anger they retaliate as if the wrath is our fault. Our separation, without words, indeed declares the diminished state of our human brothers. And now we begin to comprehend the truth of the heart wrenching separation that must take place from those who would harbor the accursed thing in the camp, which we discussed in the previous Post. How much worse when it gets deeply personal:

“He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me” Matthew 10:37.

I cannot drag this out in this post as it should be addressed, but it is very important to note that Christians seem to constantly implement this passage at just the wrong time-and-place while failing to implement it at the right time-and-place. I did not post the verse that follows it because being intentionally personal it is far too often combined with this public verse and so used to pass “the death sentence” on the fallen for their sins rather than used on those who have implemented “folly.” If you don’t yet know the difference you have no business “cutting off” your loved ones because they have sinned. This passage in that case is supposed to be a personal “devotion-to-God” verse not a “judge-others” verse (Matthew 7:3-5). But now, as the days grow quickly darker, the division between God’s true people and those who are not God’s people will automatically happen in sorrow, and you won’t avoid the retaliation that comes because your very existence reveals their smallness. Though they will demand it, no Obama-like apologies are appropriate. Just don’t get proud and prove them right!

(*4) Prophesied the end of America:
Post 092 October 16, 2010 “ You’re Doing What?” (http://when-did-reason-die.blogspot.com/2010/10/your-doing-what-october-16-2010-have.html).

(*5) “What's the Shi'ite-Sunni split really about? It's about who should lead Islam, and it began at the moment of Muhammad's death. As the founder of Islam, he was the undisputed leader. And if he had had a son, the split might never have happened — a son would automatically have inherited his father's authority. But he died without sons and without leaving a clear will. His closest male relative was his cousin and son-in-law, the philosopher-warrior Ali, whose followers — the Shiat Ali [followers of Ali], or Shi'ite for short — say that he was the only one with the spiritual authority to succeed Muhammad. The Sunnis believed that the caliphate should go to whoever would be best equipped politically to maintain the burgeoning Muslim empire, backing Muhammad's father-in-law Abu Bakr. In the end, Abu Bakr was named the first caliph. Though Ali eventually assumed the caliphate 25 years later, he was assassinated, power fell to the founder of the first Sunni dynasty, and the Shi'ites felt a terrible, lasting sense of dispossession...” - (http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1924116,00.html)

(*6) Mahdi: “Mahdi means 'guided one'. Often refered to as Imam Mahdi, or Al-Mahdi, it is the nickname name of a very important person in Islam who will have the real name: Muhammed. He is yet to be born according to the majority of Sunni Muslims, but is alive at this very moment according to the majority of Shia Muslims, but his identity is not know (i.e. He is in occulation).
It is said he will accompany Prophet Jesus (AS) when he returns and will rid the world of evil, eventually bringing peace & harmony after the great wars. Mahdi is also a popular boy's name.”
- (http://www.islamic-dictionary.com/index.php?word=mahdi).

(*7) Ten Toes on One Foot:
This suggestion is quite troubling as we see no remarks of this notably abnormal characteristic of the Nebuchadnezzar image, but neither are we told that each foot has five toes; we simply assume this fact as natural and expected, so my theory that all ten toes are on one foot just seems to be a manipulation of the prophecy. This became a somewhat mute argument when I concluded that the ten toes of Daniel 2:41-43 are the same ten horns of Daniel 7:7-8 and Revelation 12:3 as ten kings. These ten are not given their kingdoms until the rise of the Antichrist at the very end of that second foot Empire that has the ten toes (Revelation 17:12).
To be honest I don’t like this interpretation because it simply does not match the historic example of perfect anatomical imagery in the statue that we have seen to this point. Therefore, like the Revived Rome theory, though maybe not actually incorect, there is obviously more information yet to be revealed. Besides, the Beast has ten heads, right?, so how tough to accept is a single foot with ten toes? My only question of caution is to ask; "Are the ten toes really these ten kings or are they actually something else?" For now, my interpretation stands.
I realize this post is very long, but I removed almost as much as I published!

(*8) More Muslims appointed to America’s Department of Homeland Security - (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/134466).
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