Monday, February 1, 2010

Part 4 of 4 Religion in Government Trial

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Continued from Post Jan. 19, 2010 Titled; "Separation of Church and State"


Part 4. Our founders knew that if religion was to be removed from our government that it would fall.

George Mason: father of the Bill of Rights.
Speech on the floor of the Constitutional Convention:
“As nations cannot be rewarded or punished in the next world, so they must be in this. By an inevitable chain of causes and effects, Providence punishes national sins by national calamities.”

George Washington’s prayer in his resignation letter to all the state governors on June 8, 1783
“I now make it my earnest prayer that God would have you, and the State over which you preside, in His holy protection…that he would most graciously be pleased to dispose us all to do justice, to love mercy, and to demean ourselves with that charity, humility, and pacific temper of mind which were the characteristics of the Divine Author of our Blessed religion, without an humble invitation of Whose example in these things, we can never hope to be a happy nation.”
Three months later on September 8, 1783 the formal peace treaty with Great Britain was signed. That document opens with the words;
“In the name of the Most Holy and Undivided Trinity.”
Are you beginning to see that these words dispersed liberally through many, many early documents, are not just flower and meaningless glitter, but very genuine and earnestly proclaimed sentiments of the authors?

From George Washington’s COMPLETE farewell address: (modern reprints of this speech have censored the four religious warnings)
“Of all the dispositions and habits which lead to political prosperity, religion and morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars.”
Unfortunately this is exactly what Mr. Indeap had encouraged every ‘patriot’ to do!
“Efforts to transform our secular government into some form of religion-government partnership should be resisted by every patriot.”
What is even more disturbing is that Mr. Indeap is a lawyer in this nation. He of all men should know the law, but sadly he in honest ignorance of the law, has declared the opposite intention for this nation that his forefather George Washington strongly urged. George Washington himself said that Mr. Indeap cannot claim to be a patriot.

George Washington’s Address continued:
“Let us with caution indulge the supposition that morality can be maintained without religion. Whatever may be conceded to the influence of refined education on minds... reason and experience both forbid us to expect that national morality can prevail in exclusion of religious principle.”

More Farewell Address:
“Let it simply be asked, ‘Where is the security for life, for reputation and for property, if the sense of religious obligation desert (is abandon)?”

Noah Webster:
“The Bible is the chief moral cause of all that is good and the best corrector of all that is evil in human society- the best book for regulating the temporal (that is secular) concerns of men.”
“All of the miseries and evils which men suffer from vice, crime, ambition, injustice, oppression, slavery and war, proceed from them despising or neglecting the precepts contained in the Bible.”
Noah Webster’s schoolbook; ‘The History of the United States’ 1832

Cause and effect:
In People v. Ruggles 1811: (also sited by the US Supreme Court)
“Whatever strikes at the root of Christianity tends manifestly to the dissolution of civil government.”
Interestingly this case was regarding a man who maliciously and capriciously attacked Jesus Christ with profanity in his writing. The court explained that an attack on Jesus Christ was an attack on Christianity, and an attack on Christianity was an attack on the foundation of the country! This man was sentenced to 3 months in prison and $500.00 fine, for attacking the country by attacking Jesus Christ!
Note that this ruling was nearly 20 years after the first amendment was in place. Clearly the first amendment was never intended to separate Christian principles from government.

Why the bible should be the primary textbook in school.
Dr. Benjamin Rush, a founding father, signer of Declaration, wrote Americas first chemistry textbook, Started the Sunday school movement, founded 5 colleges, promoted academic education for women and African Americans, wrote an entire book regarding why the Bible should be the primary textbook in schools, in it he wrote:
“In contemplating the political institutions of this United States, I lament that (if we remove the Bible from schools) we waste so much time and money in punishing crimes and take so little pains to prevent them…For this Divine Book, above all others, favors that equality among mankind, that respect for just laws, and those sober and frugal virtues which constitute the soul of (our government).” Dr. Benjamin Rush 1791

On the vanity of increased penal laws in absence of the Bible:
“The Holy Scriptures…can alone secure to society, order and peace, and to our courts of justice and constitutions of government, purity, stability, and usefulness. In vain, without the Bible, we increase penal laws and draw (protections) around our institutions.” - James McHenry, Signer of the Constitution, Secretary of War under Washington and Adams.

The Logic of our Founders:
I have shown in my first argument, that our founders were very familiar with its contents, and in my second argument showed they held great regard for what it said.

So what does the Bible say about a nation that follows God?
“When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice:…” Proverbs 29:2a

“Keep therefore and do (the statutes and judgments of the LORD); for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people. For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for? And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law…” Deuteronomy 4:6-8

“Thou hast avouched the LORD this day to be thy God, and to walk in his ways, and to keep his statutes, and his commandments, and his judgments, and to hearken unto his voice:
And the LORD hath avouched thee this day to be his peculiar people, as he hath promised thee, and that thou shouldest keep all his commandments; And to make thee high above all nations which he hath made, in praise, and in name, and in honor; and that thou mayest be an holy people unto the LORD thy God, as he hath spoken.” Deuteronomy 26:17-19

“And I will bless them that bless thee (God’s people) and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families the earth be blessed.” Genesis 12:3

“… ye approach this day unto battle against your enemies: let not your hearts faint, fear not, and do not tremble, neither be ye terrified because of them; For the LORD your God is he that goeth with you, to fight for you against your enemies, to save you.” Deuteronomy 20:3-4

“For the LORD thy God blesseth thee, as he promised thee: and thou shalt lend unto many nations, but thou shalt not borrow; and thou shalt reign over many nations, but they shall not reign over thee.” Deuteronomy 15:6

“And it shall come to pass, if thou shalt hearken diligently unto the voice of the LORD they God, to observe and to do all his commandments which I command thee this day, that the LORD thy God will set thee on high above all nations of the earth: And all these blessings shall come on thee, and overtake thee, if thou shalt hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God.” Deuteronomy 28:1-2
Then follows a list of 10 specific blessing; blessing on the cities and the country,
The children, crops, cattle, and flocks, produce and goods, whether leaving town or returning home, enemies will fall before you, warehouses full and safe, and success in everything you choose to do. The entire nation successful and established. (v. 3-9) IF thou shalt keep the commandments of the LORD thy God, and walk in his ways.

“Blessed is the nation whose God is the LORD; …” Psalm 33:12

“But glory, honor, and peace, to every man that worketh good, …” Romans 2:10


What about the nation that turns from God?
“…But when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn.” Proverbs 29:2b

“Ah sinful nation, a people laden with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, children that are corrupters: they have forsaken the LORD, they have provoked the Holy One… unto anger, they are gone away backward. Why should ye be stricken any more? Ye will revolt more and more: … Your country is desolate, your cities are burned with fire: your land, strangers devour it in your presence, and it is desolate, as overthrown by strangers…” Isaiah 1:4-7

“…But the law shall perish from the priest, and counsel from the ancients. The King shall mourn, and the prince shall be clothed with desolation, and the hands of the people of the land shall be troubled: I will do unto them after their way, and according to their deserts will I judge them; and they shall know that I am the LORD.” Ezekiel 7:26b-27

“Hath a nation changed their god, which (really are) no gods? But my people have changed their glory for that which doeth not profit. Be astonished, O ye heavens, at this, and be horribly afraid, be ye very desolate, saith the LORD. For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns (containers), broken cisterns, that can hold no water.” Jeremiah 2:13
Paraphrase: the people have forsaken their God that provided them with abundant life, and replaced him with worthless illusions that can provide nothing.
“Hast thou not procured this unto thyself, in that thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, when he led thee by the way?” Jeremiah 2:17

“But it shall come to pass, if thou wilt not hearken unto the voice of the LORD thy God, to observe to do all his commandments and his statutes which I command thee this day; that all these curses shall come upon thee, and overtake thee:” Deuteronomy 28:15-16
Then a list of curses on the same things God promised to bless, if we follow him. And further he adds; “The LORD shall send upon thee cursing, vexation, and rebuke, in all that thou settest thine hand unto for to do, until thou be destroyed, and until thou perish quickly; because of the wickedness of they doings, whereby thou hast forsaken me. The LORD shall make the pestilence cleave unto thee, until he have consumed thee from off the land,…” v. And on and on for 48 verses of every kind of torment imaginable. Deuteronomy 28:20-68

“If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?” Psalm 11:3

“Righteousness exalteth a nation: but sin is a reproach to any people.” Proverbs 14:34

“Ye shall therefore keep all my statutes, and all my judgments, and do them: that the land, … spue you not out. And ye shall not walk in the manners of the nations which I cast out before you: for they committed all these things, and therefore I abhorred them.” Leviticus 20:22-23

“For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness:” Romans 1:18 The remainder of the chapter outlines the progressively destructive results of starting off religious, but turn from following Gods ways.

“Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;” Romans 2:9


From the little I have already shown in my argument, we are forced by reason, to conclude that our founders must have known the Bible holds these views.
Frankly, the entire Bible is written capitalizing these two values. I have listed just a few passages to show how clear the scriptures have made this issue.
Since our founders themselves have stated such high regard for the Bible, and made a point of including the Bible in our schools in an effort to ensure their children also became familiar with it, we begin to see what they had in mind.
We are then obliged, by the historical record, to conclude that those founders therefore believed these verses. It is upon belief of verses like these, that our founders established this nation.
your rejection of their views and beliefs should not cloud the understanding of their intent. The question must be asked, Did the government they gave us, work successfully in the 147 years prior to the Courts changing our foundations in 1962-63?
Has our nation improved or deteriorated since then?
A genuine answer will take more than a cursory look. every American has the duty to investigate these questions.

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