The Fifth Dimension

Theory
Post 202

More Than Four Dimensions:
In the act of the angel casting the censor to earth in Revelation 8:5, was Satan cast to earth as the hail and fire and blood, or as the mountain on fire, or not until the falling star? If the seven trumpets blow because Satan is cast to earth then how does he not actually come until the star?
This passage is a wonderful revelation showing the kingdom of God in a realm not constrained by time while still interacting with our earthly realm that is. This is the reason for the symbolism.
Each of the trumpets blow in their order as each event in the concept occurs on earth in our temporal timeline, but all seven trumpets are simply the concept of the seventh seal: Satan being cast to earth. I propose “Concept” is perhaps the fifth dimension *1.
Concept is not constrained in time. Thought can be at the foot of the Cross of Jesus Christ in 33AD one moment and at the same time be observing the falling star of Satan crash to earth breaking open the bottomless pit still in the future of our temporal timeline. From God’s perspective outside our timeline all this was accomplished as the angel cast the censor to the earth as revealed in Revelation 8:5 which is just the Seventh Seal of the book in the right hand of God described in Revelation 5:1. If the events of the past 2000 years is only one seal on the back of the book to be broken before the book can be opened, What must be in the book!?
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Before the first trumpet:
While we have the ability to look back in history in a limited way, our perspective of reality as we know it today is hard to set aside in contemplating that things have not always been as we know them. Since we now know that Satan was cast to earth in the fire and hail and blood represented by the Roman GDE, then we should see in history a significant change in the world before and after the rise of Rome.
So what do we see?
Before the GDE of Rome, all the records show that from a human perspective, among the nations the Jews were treated no differently than any other nation; as is common to mankind one nation rose up and conquered other nations, some were led into captivity while others were incorporated into the latest empire through taxes and treaties. To the rest of the world the Jews were just another people group on the planet. Battles were just a necessary evil in the establishment of governments.

But something happened at the rise of Rome.
Suddenly for no apparent reason the Jews and Christians became the unexplainable target of murderous hatred. What is the actual reason that Nero burned a multitude of Christians on poles as streetlights? What makes an entire sophisticated society gather in mass in a football stadium type building to watch other humans being torn and consumed by lions? What horrible thing did the Christians do to bring on such incredible hatred with no cause?
What great evil did the entire people group of Jews do to Germany that would make Hitler design the specific camps for the purpose of tormenting and incinerating literally millions of them? It must have been a very evil thing indeed to warrant such treatment. What could possibly be the purpose for Gorillas of the world to storm villages of utter poverty just to decimate the helpless for no reason; hacking off limbs and worse but not mercifully wiping them out entirely? Since the rise of Rome there has been a new spirit of unexplainable, unjustifiable murder and torment that has consumed the world.
The scriptures tell us why:
“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him… Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! For the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time” Revelation 12:9,12.
Of course short is relative. From the realm beyond our time constraint, Satan's time is limited to the concept of one seal on the book to simply be broken open while to us, constrained by time and limited to very small allotments of it, we see this as a long time of 2000 years.

Jesus makes more clear to us exactly when this transition of ages took place;
“And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.” Matthew 11:12
and he goes on to explain it even further;
”For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.” Matthew 11:13

Did you ever wonder why God waited thousands of years after Adam to send his Son to save the world? This is the reason for the specific timing. From the fall of Adam to the cleansing flood of Noah and from the new start unto the arrival of Satan, the law was acceptably adequate to deal with the iniquity of man as he strove to worship God. But after Satan arrived there was a whole new strain of Evil that mankind could not deal with. The law was not enough.
This is found in the verses couched between those of the previous concept:
“And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night. And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto death” Revelation 12:10-11. The word “for” after the colon tells us why Jesus came at that time.
It was no accident that Jesus came as a Sacrifice at the time of Rome; the beginning of the great and diverse beast of iron: the first young GDE kingdom of Satan on earth. And it is no accident that Rome was the tool used by the confused rebellious Jews to kill that sacrifice.

Why did Jesus come?
We quickly reply; "To save the world" and that is indeed right in part, but how? What reason did Jesus himself give for his coming in the flesh to this earth?
"...To this end was I born, and for this cause came I into the world, That I should bear witness unto the truth...." John 18:37

The arrival of Satan on this earth created an environment where truth was no longer knowable through the law. Jesus came to earth at that time for the purpose of bringing the witness unto the truth. Only through “seeing” his witness in his life will the world be able to know truth (Romans 10:14).
The kingdom of Satan is a progressive confusion that unless God shorten the days even the very elect could be deceived, if such a thing was possible (Matthew 24:24).
This is a new era, and we are now entering the third and final stage of the kingdom of confusion *2. Jesus came to tell us the truth in a world of deception. Go through the book of John looking for the number of times this concept appears!
“He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day” John 12:48.
Jesus IS the truth (John 7:28+8:16=14:6) as the Word of God (John 1:1) which spoke everything into existence (John 1:3), Therefore if we reject what he spoke we reject reality itself. The word of truth is what judges because truth is that which relates to reality *3 (as the old dictionaries stated *4). This is made clear by the rejection of his word that He made all things and so we go about imagining how things came to be without him, ending up with the “fact” of evolution though “the Big Bang”. Our perspective of all reality follows this same trend as we reject his word of truth.
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Who's world is it?
If the Seven Trumpets (Revelation 8:2-14:20) are the several elements of Satan falling to earth as the Seventh Seal (Revelation 8:1), And if the Seven Seals (Revelation 6:1-8:1) are the authority that lawfully binds what is contained in the book in the right hand of God (Revelation 5:1), And if as evidenced by Ancient Jewish custom; the book (scroll) is a title deed by the evidence of the writing on the back (open), with the seven seals (closed) as exampled in Jeremiah 32:11-12, Then the book must be that thing identified whose ownership is declared as the only one lawfully able to open the book by breaking the seals (Revelation 5:2-4). The book then is title of purchase as is the deeper representation of that of Jeremiah 32:14 “…that they (the documents of title) may continue many days (before being brought forth and applied)”.

Why did John weep much just because a book could not be opened? What is the big deal? John’s much weeping perhaps represents the sorrow of the book in hopeless bondage of the seals that must be broken before the book can be lawfully possessed by him who frees it from the previous claimant. The breaking of the seals is positive proof of ownership by purchase.
But none was found that could break the seals…. until the Lamb came and was the owner able to break the seals by reason of his purchase; the purchase of his blood (Revelation 5:6-8).
The scriptures repeatedly refer to “the event” called “the end” (Matthew 24:3,6) as arriving after birthpags of a woman in labor (Matthew 24:8, Revelation 12:2). These labor pains are again the seven seals as they are broken open.
The earth is the book, the betrothal of redemption was at Christ’s sacrificial death after which the groom departed to make them a home (John 14:2-3), The marriage will take place in heaven during the first 3-1/2 years of tribulation by Satan on earth (I Thessalonians 4:14-17, Revelation 19:9), the breaking of the seals is the prenatal labor, the tribulation is the rushing to the hospital as the event of delivery is the Great Tribulation that follows, when the Lord returns at the end to claim possession of what is born.
What is born is a world unto Christ and his bride the saints (Revelation 5:10); the proven lawful owners of the book by verification of his ability to break open the seven seals (Revelation 5:5-10).
Without the seven seals, anybody that comes along can claim ownership of the book. But with the seals, as is the popular analogy of “the Sword in the Stone”; only the rightful king can break the seals and possess the book being no longer disputed as king.
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*1 I propose that “Concept” is the fifth dimension.
Not just any concept of imagination but the concept of reality.
When your wife becomes pregnant you become a father; the thing that makes you a father is done. The fact that you don’t get to hold it or feed it or change its diaper or even the duration of its life does not change the fact that you have made a life and that makes you a father. The other things are simply events in the timeline of the child’s life including but not limited to the events of birth and marriage. If the child dies before it is married does that mean you were not a father? No. Neither does the death of the child before it is born. These are simply events in the maturing process constrained to an order in our time-domain.
We are only constrained because until the event actually occurs, our thoughts of the event are merely imagination. Only after the event is spoken into existence by the creator are we able to look back in reality.
God is not thus constrained. He can look back and forward with equal conception of reality that has been and will be because we are but a thought of God spoken into existence by his Word Jesus the Christ (Genesis 1:1,3, John 1:1-4,9-14).
In Revelation 5:1 God sits on his throne holding a book in his right hand. This is a moment in time only because John was given the vision to describe in our timeline of reality. The book of Revelation is a mysterious look into another dimension from our dimensionally constrained perspective describing the events not contained in the book in the hand of God but just leading up to opening the book! Our entire existence on this earth in this universe has not yet even gotten past the title on the outside! *1b.
Now please read Revelation 4 and the first eight verses of chapter 5 with this in mind.

Only when we understand this fifth dimensional perspective of what we are reading can we understand that the lamb that was slain and therefore worthy to break the seals and open the book here in chapter 5, but was not yet in our timeline slain until the 7th seal of chapter 8. This is verified in scripture by confirming that Jesus was slain from the foundations of the word (Revelation 13:8), which foundations we are now discussing. Therefore the book shown in God's hand is the history of the world, and the seals on the back are it’s foundations before the book is even opened!
Since we have identified our present existence in time as between the second and third trumpets of Revelation 8:8-9 we know that the history of the world is still in the pre-natal stage before it’s book is even opened to begin the real reading of its post natal life after the foundations are established.
Have you ever wondered what is to be born at the end of these “birthpangs” Jesus mentioned in John 16:21-22, Revelation 12:2, Matthew 24:8,21,32 and ending in 33; “So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the door.”
What is IT? The birth of the world unto Christ: in otherwords the kingdom of Christ on earth (Daniel 2:34-35,45,7:26-27, and more later).
This concept is played out in Galatians 4:19 “My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you,” (see also I Thessalonians 5:3)

*1b What is in the book?
Remember the new Jerusalem that comes down from heaven? (Revelation 3:12, 21:2), and the new heaven and new earth? (Revelation 3:13,21:1). These are contained inside the book. But that is yet a long ways into the future according to our timeline (II Peter 3:8 + Revelation 20:2-9). There are many events yet to pass before the coming of the new heaven and new earth.

*2 The Truth Project:
If it has been a while since you viewed "The Truth Project" DVDs dig it out and take a look at the very first lesson. Del Tackett has done an unsurpassable job of systematically restructuring our mind built on the foundation of truth. Now with this concept of the kingdom of confusion what Mr. Tackett has to say in that very first lesson takes on yet a whole new level of comprehension! If you have not seen "The Truth Project" series, do whatever you can to get it!
Join a group The Truth Project or buy it

*3 The entire conflict on earth is the battle between The Truth and The Lie.
"This evil people, which refuse to hear my words, which walk in the imagination of their heart, and walk after other gods, to serve them, and to worship them, shall..." Are these the words of Jesus?
Note it is his words they refuse to hear, and the lie of their imagination which they follow. But no, this is not even the New Testament! This is Jeremiah 13:10.
Are they Jesus' words? You bet they are!

"And it shall come to pass, when thou shalt shew this people all these words, and they shall say unto thee, Wherefore hath the LORD pronounced all this great evil against us? or what is our iniquity? or what is our sin that we have committed against the LORD our God?..." Jeremiah 16:10.
These poor hopeless people (The Jews of that narration and therefore Christians today) have no idea why God should be so frustrated with them! Is that not our people today? We simply have no idea what we might be doing that should make God mad enough to destroy us, so we reject the idea as preposterous!
This is also the mind of those to whom Jeremiah was sent:
"Then shalt thou say unto them, Because your fathers have forsaken me, saith the LORD, and have walked after other gods, and have served them, and have worshiped them, and have forsaken me, and have not kept my law;" Jeremiah 16:11
Well that doesn't seem right. Why should we be punished for what our fathers did?
The semi-colon tells us the thought is not finished but that the fathers choices are what create the environment that brings on the judgment:
"And ye have done worse than your fathers; for, behold, ye walk every one after the imagination of his evil heart, that they may not hearken unto me:" Jeremiah 16:12
Again we see them following after their imaginations that do not conform to the truth (what relates to reality). Their hearts are now evil and successfully "programed" by the choices of their fathers, not to head what God says. This is indeed the fault of their fathers choices but that does not remove the burden of responsibility from them for their choices, nor us from ours.
But how is what the children are doing, worse than what the fathers did?
It is all about the mindframe of evil imagination.
The fathers indeed did wrong by worshiping other gods, but they knew the difference. Therefore there was hope of correction by the rebukes of life. But the next generation no longer knew what was true. They grew up in this lie of following things other than God and so never knew God. They honestly believed there was nothing more worthy of consideration than their own evil imagination; "If it feel good, do it."
This is the generation of today's America. This is the generation now running our governments, teaching in our schools and are our scientists and media. This is the generation of evil imagination because our fathers have turned from their father's God and worshiped profit and pleasure and stuff. Sure it is their fault we have the mindframe we do, but we are the ones who pay the price for our own ignorant conduct (Jeremiah 32:18).
Now to step back a bit and see how your understanding has changed to this point, go back to post 077 Washington’s Slaves (July 2010) and see how much more you understand of the wise mindframe of our founders, of the principles of God, and how it applies in reality as we used to understand these things that blessed our nation but now do not and so pay the price.

*4 Truth: "Conformity to fact or reality: exact accordance with that which is, or has been, or shall be... 'We rely upon the truth of the scriptural prophecies.'" - Noah Webster Dictionary 1828

[Post 214 The Fall of Satan is the next post that follows this topic, but has been lost in the blog order, please use this link to find it: (http://when-did-reason-die.blogspot.com/2013/02/the-fall-of-satan.html)].
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