Post 205
The following is taken from a correspondence with a significant party to the Restoring Courage Event scheduled in Jerusalem. I hesitated to post it but it is becoming significant in the question at hand.
(On Fri, May 27, 2011 at 6:06 AM, you wrote)
Dear Friends,
As a long time consumer of Mr. ---- ‘s material I have nothing but the greatest respect for him and his work. And as a great respecter of Mr. Beck and his work, I have been happy to recommend both men's work to as many as will listen. BUT the joint venture which they plan in Israel in October [I meant August], though with the best and most honorable intentions, is the conception of the greatest iniquity that Israel and the Christian world can commit against their God.
I beg you to insure Mr. ---- has the chance to read these two posts that outline scripturally why he should have virtually nothing to do with Glenn Beck's plan to call all gods of all nations to Jerusalem, beseeching global Democracy to defend them against Islam.
This iniquity will result in Israel's greater sin than the 1st rejection of their messiah when Jesus was crucified. My blog is the body of my book carefully working up to these last few posts which I here include. I believe that Mr. ---- is versed well enough in scripture and truth to comprehend the message without the need to read the entirety of the book, and so with great respect and concern I offer these two posts for serious consideration:
1st - Blind Side (http://when-did-reason-die.blogspot.com/2011/05/blind-side.html)
2nd - Foolish Courage (http://when-did-reason-die.blogspot.com/2011/05/foolish-courage.html)
With great love and admiration:
Kyle Ponsford
[address and phone number removed]
http://www.when-did-reason-die.blogspot.com
__________________________
From: info@---
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 10:11:16 -0500
Subject: Re: Urgent: BEFORE Mr. ---- Goes to Israel in August!
Mr. Ponsford,
Greetings from ------.
We thank you for your concern for ------ and for what we are doing in Israel. ------s' official position on this event is that this event is not supposed to be about religion; it's about supporting and standing with Israel. Therefore any and all-regardless of religion-are welcome to come and stand with Israel. We are simply following the directive God gave us of supporting his people.
Should you have any further question on this topic or others related to the Restoring Courage event, we welcome you to ask them. You may send them to customerservice@----- as we are collecting questions and may be, if necessary, sending out updates to our mailing list with more information concerning this event. To receive these updates, please sign up for our mailing list at our website www------.
Have a blessed day,
J--
------
info@------
_____________________________
(On Sat, June 25, 2011 at 2:15 PM you wrote)
Dear Miss J-- of ------,
I really appreciate your reply to my email (included) though it appears evident you did not take the time to read the few pages of intent which I attached and instead directed me to this generic email address for further contact. It is clear that ------ has selected a course of action honestly believed to be right, and thus the debate is now closed to those perceived to be in opposition. Therefore how can I word a short introductory e-mail that might spark a genuine warning of worthy caution that would cause an investigation into a potentially critical line of thinking which simply may not have yet been considered? Please allow me this one thought and I will not bother you further:
You declare that ------s’ stand regarding Israel is based from the directive of scripture, but which scripture exactly?
Perhaps the classic Abrahamic promise: “And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee…” Genesis 12:3
That seems like a real easy thing to recognize, but this blessing and curse is shown to be complexly corrupted by Jacob’s own mother’s prophetic aid in a deceitful attempt to receive the blessing;
“My father peradventure will feel me, and I shall seem to him as a deceiver; and I shall bring a curse upon me, and not a blessing” Genesis 27:12.
But Jacob (i.e. Israel) obeyed his mother, deceived his father and did receive the blessing intended for his older brother. How is this scripturally possible?
We see the answer of her reply to his concerns in the next verse;
“And his mother said unto him, Upon me be thy curse, my son: only obey my voice, and go fetch them” Genesis 27:13.
We see That Jacob was not cursed for his deception because his mother took the curse upon herself. How benevolent of her. And as we continue the passage we find the blessing Jacob then received;
“Therefore God give thee of the dew of heaven, and the fatness of the earth, and plenty of corn and wine: Let people serve thee, and nations bow down to thee: be lord over thy brethren, and let thy mother’s son bow down to thee: cursed be every one that curseth thee, and blessed be he that blesseth thee” Genesis 27:28-29.
But as we investigate this blessing we find a very real lack in application:
When has these specific blessings fallen upon the people of Israel; (the servants of the nations of the earth, the robbed and the abused people)?
When has Israel’s brother *1 served them? Or bowed down to them? When has Israel been lord over them?
We see that Jacob has not yet received the fulfillment of the blessing.
So just what blessing did Jacob’s mother ensure he got? She ensured he got the meaning of his name; Supplanter *2, and he got a firstborn blessing that was not readily applicable to his second born nature. Is it his blessing by its giving? Yes it is (Genesis 27:33). But that blessing has cost him very dearly indeed in learning how to possess it (these many years later still in the learning).
So did Jacob’s mother actually bless him or curse him in her desire to help?
We see that the transfer of the birthright, had already lawfully taken place earlier in an exchange for a bowl of soup (Genesis 25:31-34). Therefore there was no need to engineer a supplanting plot to take what was lawfully his. But out of fear of letting the lawful birthright slip away (as it appeared to be sure), those that would aid him used ungodly methods to acquire the blessing. Does this ring any bells?
Abraham did the same thing for the same reason: The promise was already his, but out of human fear and doubts of reason he allowed someone to “help” him use ungodly means to acquire the blessing; and the result was a great trouble in the earth that still plagues us today (Genesis 16:1-2).
So did Sarai bless Abram or curse him?
* * *
Perhaps ------s’ stand with Israel is based upon the command of Psalm 122:6 “Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.”
But what exactly does this command, command us to do? Only to pray in love. Why?
Because of a truth, what can you do for a person while in rebellion?
Israel is not at this time blessable because she is still in denial of her Messiah, she is still learning how to possess the blessing of a firstborn.
To attempt to aid Israel through a loving heart of emotion and not in truth, is to curse them with more troubles while attempting to help them acquire the blessing of the promise through ungodly means.
Democracy is a great curse on the earth as it is the coalition of godless humanity that was first established by Nimrod in his kingdom of Babel (Genesis 10:10), and applied in the attempt to build the Tower of Babel (Genesis 11:1-4).
Why did God judge this effort? Because of the heart of the program: “Let us make a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth” Genesis 11:4.
Why was this such a judgeable thing? Because it was man’s attempt through a democratic mind to supplant God’s authority to direct.
God had already commanded man to replenish the earth (Genesis 1:28), not congregate into one place for the purpose of making a name. The implication is this name they desired to make through building a great tower to heaven, is a name of glory. A name of greatness and respect.
This is a sidetrack that I will not here develop for brevity, but God scattered them to foil their desired ill-advised purpose.
This is the same sin. and the consequence is the same in each case; The attempt of man to acquire the honorable blessing through godless means, results in a scattering to insure that attempt fails.
God always fulfills His promise in His power, for the glory of His name.
* * *
Band of Iron and Brass:
How is the calling of all Godless humanity through the brass of democracy for the defense of Israel against the iron of Islam, supposed to glorify God’s name?
This has already been prophesied in the representation of Nebuchadnezzar’s fall as found in the curious verse of Daniel 4:15;
“Nevertheless leave the stump of his roots in the earth, even with a band of iron and brass, in the tender grass of the field; and let it be wet with the dew of heaven, and let his portion be with the beasts in the grass of the earth…”
I have already shown in detail of post 093 Babylon Cliffs Notes October 2010, that Nebuchadnezzar was the prophetic representation of Israel. So while Nebuchadnezzar/Israel was cast out of his kingdom to wander insane as an animal, what is the singular band of iron and brass around the stump that remains?
I submit this single band is the captivity of the remnant of Israel.
The Iron we now know to be the fourth diverse beast (Daniel 7), now clearly identified as the three parts of Rome, Islamic Caliphate one, and two, But what is the brass?
It is the Democracy of the Great Whore. And here is identified the mysterious cryptic authority of New Babylon: There are not two bands; one of iron and one of brass. The single band of iron and brass identifies that although presenting as different choices as Yin and Yang, they are the same band of evil; The Great Whore of the sea of Democracy is carried by the Beast of Islam (Revelation 17:7).
* * *
How does this apply in temporal reality?
In our honest heart of love and compassion on Israel’s pending “sure” failure to receive the blessing of promise, this August endeavor in Jerusalem to aid her in that receipt, is but a replay of the several previous unwise attempts that ended in great troubles.
In repulsion of the iron band of Islam, we choose the brass… of the same band. The band of iron and brass.
As I declared before and now declare again: This call to the Democracy of the world to stand in defense of Israel is to spit in the face of God himself declaring him unable to fulfill his promise without our faithless “help” though He has shown his ability in the past two events.
This third attempt is the moment in time when the Great Whore will be conceived and her “maturity” will be as fast as a child prostitute. The resulting brass will be the same binding of the stump as the iron. It is one band.
The first such assist resulted in the casting off of a people that got their own blessing (Genesis 16:10-12). The second assist resulted in a greater perpetual hatred between two peoples (Genesis 27:41). This third assist will result in the greatest trouble the earth has yet seen… again between two peoples; The children of promise and the children of man’s effort to achieve that promise.
This will result in a great confusion of success that will declare the truth of scripture to be a lie as right will become wrong and wickedness will present as honorable. Iniquity will succeed as truth while righteousness will fail as a lie (Daniel 8:23-25a, Isaiah 5:20-21, Jeremiah 23:14, Revelation 18:3).
Therefore I beg you again to simply take a little time and actually consider that to generically stand with Israel based on a generic concept acquired through a general understanding of scripture might not actually produce the desired affect.
Were the apostles to “stand with Israel” when they killed Jesus the Messiah? *3
Are we to now “stand with Israel” while they yet deny the only Savior and door to the Father? *4.
Is “standing with Israel” really the command of scripture?
Is our effort to use Godless means to bless Israel a blessing or a curse to them and us?
“And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee…” Genesis 12:3
Might we find ourselves cursed in our ill-advised attempt to bless them?
These are the days of confusion and only a serious search will find the right answer.
May God aid you in your quest to serve him in truth.
Kyle Ponsford
* * * * * * *
*1 “And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels...” (of Genesis 25:22-23)
*2 Jacob 3290 Ya’aqob; from 6117; heel-catcher (i.e. supplanter); the Israelitish patriarch.
Supplanter: to trip up ones heels, to throw down, 1. To supersede (another), especially by force, trickery, or treacherty. 2. To uproot; to eradicate; often so as to replace; as, to supplant fear by curiosity. 3. To take the place of; to supersede; as, free verse has not supplanted metrical verse.- Syn. Displace, overthrow. - Webster’s Collegiate Dictionary 1948 5th edition.
*3 Truthtellers org (http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/christiansinisraelrepost.html)
*4 Who are Abrahams children (http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/whoareabrahamschildren.htm)
*
Subscribe to:
Post Comments (Atom)
Conservatives need to stop being hypocrites here. Doing the wrong thing for the right reason is still doing the wrong thing.
ReplyDeleteAnd going to a foreign country to protest your own government is the wrong thing no matter how wrong you might think Obama is.
Sir Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill said it best:
"When I am abroad, I always make it a rule never to criticize or attack the government of my own country. I make up for lost time when I come home."
He understood the complete uglyness to what Beck is doing. The line that Beck crosses into acting in very unpatriotic way indeed.
We might not like it but Obama IS our President. When the lefties were going "not my president" during Bush we were legitimately angry because they were not attacking the man they were attacking the office. So are we if we are now taking our disagreements outside our shores.
Disagree with Obama's policy - okay, there's places, there's opportunities to do that. But when you go to another country then you are not attacking merely Obama you are, whether you feel this way or not - YOU ARE ATTACKING AMERICA.
You have become no better than the Left who I have spent a lifetime hating for their attacks against America. You have become traitors!