The Spiritual and the Secular

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Today’s discussion is coming from a biblically based perspective, and primarily to Christians.
I realize I have readers whom are not Christian. That’s fine.
But I think you will be able to follow my reasoning here, even if you are unfamiliar with some basic Christian teachings.
I believe my conclusions will be applicable even if you are an unbeliever.

We now live in a time and country where most Christians are offered so many variables on Christian beliefs and practice, how can they know what is actually right?
American Christians are tragically ignorant of a serious understanding of their foundational documents; The Bible.
The result is that they build their Christianity on what they feel is right.
If they have a question, they don't turn to the bible and ask God, they turn to their Christian friends to get their opinion. They listen to a few pastors to see if they have anything to add that sounds right. and they read books on the subject in question.
Yet bizzarly they look everywhere for the answer, except to the documents that are fundamental to their faith. Why?

One of the very important features of the Bible is its use of "Type and Shadows", that is describing one reality, by another more familiar reality. We understand our relationship with God, through the type and shadow of a marriage. And we also have a better marriage when we gain understanding of a successful relationship with God.

Our national state is our type and shadow of our spiritual state. The successes and failures of the one, follow in similarity to the other.
We have our nation's founding documents which establish our very nation. Yet we have made thousands of lesser documents to rule us because we don't bother to read, and abide by the originals.
Over time our laws have now become so skewed, that the very original document called the Constitution, is now un-constitutional!
The writings of our founding fathers are now declared to be unlawful to read because they violate the founding documents… which they wrote!
Our nation is collapsing faster than anyone could have imagined and no one knows why? Insane!
Yet try to explain all this to Progressive Congressman who pass 4000 page bills without reading them, and you will discover it is impossible.

Yet even more insane than that, are Christians who complain about it, but do the same thing in their faith!
Few American Christians who stand boldly for “Christianity” have bothered to read the bible, let alone study it seriously as our founders did.
Our nation was built in a large part on the principles found in the 5 books of Jewish law; Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy, which are also the first 5 books of the Christian Bible.
Yet now, even our nation’s Christians are completely ignorant of these principles and laws. Some examples:

“Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.”
Leviticus 18:22, 20:13, also Romans 1:24-27 Homosexuality
“Also in thy skirts is found the blood of the souls of the poor innocents: I have not found it by secret search, but upon all these.” Jeremiah 2:34 Abortion
“And the man that commiteth adultery with another man’s wife,… the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be put to death.” Leviticus 20:10 Adultery
“A man also or woman that hath a familiar spirit, or that is a wizard, shall surely be put to death…” Leviticus 20:27 “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live” Exodus 22:18 Divination *

Not only are Christians now squeamish regarding our national principles of right and wrong which are based on these laws,
They are just as ignorant of the universal consequences of violating these laws;

“… O my people, they which lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths.” Isaiah 3:12
“Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!” Isaiah 5:20
Isaiah 29:13-15
“Therefore my people are gone into captivity, because they have no knowledge: and their honorable men are famished, and their multitude dried up with thirst (for knowledge).” Isaiah 5:13

Now days the very words of Jesus himself are rejected as un-Christ like! (Matthew 5:17, 12:30) Just as the very words of our Founders are rejected as un-American!

“The Christian religion in its purity is the basis and the source of all genuine freedom in government. I am persuaded that no civil government of a republican form can exist and be durable, in which the principles of Christianity have not a controlling influence.” Noah Webster, June 1775

“Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the bible for their only law book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited, what a utopia, what a paradise would this region be.” John Adams at the congressional meeting to petition congress to import bibles after the war of independence 1777

“It (July 4) aught to be commemorated as ‘the day of deliverance’ by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty.” John Adams at the presentation of the new Constitution to the people July 4, 1776

“Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people, it is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” John Adams writer of the constitution.
Why?
One reason;
“The democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves a largess from the treasury. From that moment on, the majority will always vote for the candidates promising the most benefits from the public treasury. With the result, the democracy always collapses over loose fiscal policy.” Alexander Tytler
http://www.lorencollins.net/tytler.html

“The highest glory of the American Revolution was this; that it connected in one indissoluble bond, the principles of civil government with the principles of Christianity.” President John Quincy Adams

I have listed many such examples in my previous post Separation of Church and State
http://when-did-reason-die.blogspot.com/2010/01/separation-of-church-and-state.html
to show that our founders were not just religious, they were decisively Christian with Christian beliefs.
Now I find the need to provide today’s Christian with similar evidence to show what a Christian actually believes!

American Christianity is collapsing faster than anyone could have imagined and no one knows why?
Americans now live their religion based on their emotions.
"Whatever feels good."
"Who are you to judge me?"
"I think God is...."
"My god would never...."
and on and on.

Americans have now created their own god, to suit their own desires.
World history shows this is common to man.
Americans call this creation of theirs by the name of the one true God, the Creator of everything, but the god they have made is far from the likeness of Him.
They hold high their bible, but interpret it to mean whatever they want it to say, which is really easy if you don't open it much.

Jesus said; "And when he (the shepherd) sets out his own sheep, he goes before them, and the sheep follow him: because they know his voice. And a stranger they will not follow, but will flee from him: because they don't know the voice of strangers" John 10:4-5 paraphrased

This verse does not even address the confusion of his sheep not knowing which voice to follow. Why?
Because this verse makes clear that it is not a problem among his sheep!
The only way you can have a problem with this thought is to be convinced you are his sheep even though you can't tell which voice is his!

And here is the root of the problem both nationally and spiritually.
The only way to know you are his sheep is if you know his voice.
The only way to know his voice is to hear it often.
The only way to hear it often is to spend time in his presence.

Our lawmakers do not know the Law, because they are too busy making law in violation of the Law. Their educators have convinced them that the bible, which is foundational to our laws, must be kept out of the law. This is contrary to the founder’s intent and urgent endeavors.

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Is there any logic that can turn the perspective of a mind based on emotion?
It has been said; "You cannot reason with an unreasonable man."
So what can you do?

It is in the nature of sheep and men, to follow.
If you hear His voice, then follow Him.
There may be a few in the state of confusion, who will see you going and follow along, and in so doing, learn to hear His voice too!
Christians need to stay on the path of "following".
Do not stop to talk someone into going your way,
you call to them as you go. Whom the LORD will call, they can follow.

There are other sheep, who hear another voice, and go another way.
You will only be confused if you do not know the voice of your shepherd,
or if you want to stay with the erring sheep. Matthew 10:34-40

What hope is there for an American who doesn’t actually want to be an American?
The same as the Christian who doesn’t actually want to be a Christian!

“Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand;” Jesus, Matthew 12:25

“Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and greatest commandment.
And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself.”
Jesus, Matthew 22:37-39
Can you honestly say this is you without question?

If Americans, both Christian and secular, would return to our foundations as a Nation, God would heal all our ills.
You don't have to believe in God to believe; "Do not murder" is a good law!
The reasonable mind, like our founders, will conclude His other laws are good for us as well.
Jeremiah 33:3 II Chronicles 7:14
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Obama Mocks the Bible
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvKX16Eygs0&feature=related
Obama gives respect to the koran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkoV52eSXZI
combination short clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrJQ8_vGOuI&feature=related
Obama's Excessive glorification of Islam
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY&feature=related
Is he our president or theirs?

If we really were still a Christian nation, this man could never have been voted into office! So was he wrong when he declared; "America is no longer a Christian nation."?

* Note: I am not suggesting America's laws were copied verbatim from these Jewish laws, but being familiar with the scriptures, our founders made laws against these types of conduct, in agreement with God's values in scripture.